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Re: [PATCH 2/4] hash.h: scaffolding for _fast hashing variants

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Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Date
Sep 4, 2024, 07:05 UTC
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On Tue, Sep 03, 2024 at 01:47:09PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com> writes:
> 
> > I discussed this with brian in the sub-thread where I am talking to
> > them, but I think this is already the case. The pack is read in
> > index-pack and the checksum is verified without using the _fast hash
> > functions, so we would detect:
> >
> >   - either half of a colliding pair of objects, when reading individual
> >     objects' contents to determine their SHA-1s, or
> >
> >   - a colliding pack checksum, when computing the whole pack's checksum
> >     (which also does not use the _fast variants of these functions), and
> >
> >   - a mismatched pack checksum, when verifying the pack's checksum
> >     against the one stored in the pack.
> >
> >>  (2) devise a transition plan to use a hash function that computes a
> >>      value that is different from SHA-1 (or SHA-256 for that
> >>      matter); and
> >>
> >>  (3) pick a hash function that computes a lot faster but is insecure
> >>      and transition to it.
> >
> > So I do not think that either of these two steps are necessary.
> 
> I suspect that it is a wrong conclusion, as I meant (1) to be
> prerequisite for doing (2) and (3), that gives us the real benefit
> of being able to go faster than SHA1DC or even SHA-256.  If (1) is
> unnecessary (because it is already covered), that is great---we can
> directly jump to (2) and (3).

Ah, so the idea would be to not introduce SHA1_fast, but instead use a hash function that is explicitly designed for fast hashing like xxHash [1]? When you compare numbers I definitely think that this makes quite some sense as XXH3 for example hashes at 31.5GB/s whereas SHA1 hashes at 0.8GB/s (if you believe the numbers on their site).

Doing this for data structures structur is almost a no-brainer if you ask me. For packfiles it's a bit more complicated as we also have to consider backwards compatibility -- a server of course cannot just start to send packfiles that use xxHash.

Patrick
[1]: https://github.com/Cyan4973/xxHash
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Message 11 of 99 in “hash.h: support choosing a separate SHA-1 for non-cryptographic uses”
  1. 0/4 hash.h: support choosing a separate SHA-1 for non-cryptographic usesTaylor Blau, Sep 1, 2024
  2. 1/4 sha1: do not redefine `platform_SHA_CTX` and friendsTaylor Blau, Sep 1, 2024
  3. Patrick SteinhardtSep 2, 2024
  4. Taylor BlauSep 3, 2024
  5. 2/4 hash.h: scaffolding for _fast hashing variantsTaylor Blau, Sep 1, 2024
  6. Patrick SteinhardtSep 2, 2024
  7. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2024
  8. Taylor BlauSep 3, 2024
  9. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2024
  10. Taylor BlauSep 3, 2024
  11. Patrick SteinhardtSep 4, 2024
  12. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2024
  13. Taylor BlauSep 3, 2024
  14. 3/4 Makefile: allow specifying a SHA-1 for non-cryptographic usesTaylor Blau, Sep 1, 2024
  15. Patrick SteinhardtSep 2, 2024
  16. Taylor BlauSep 3, 2024
  17. 4/4 csum-file.c: use fast SHA-1 implementation when availableTaylor Blau, Sep 1, 2024
  18. Patrick SteinhardtSep 2, 2024
  19. brian m. carlsonSep 3, 2024
  20. Taylor BlauSep 3, 2024
  21. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2024
  22. Taylor BlauSep 3, 2024
  23. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2024
  24. brian m. carlsonSep 2, 2024
  25. Taylor BlauSep 3, 2024
  26. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2024
  27. brian m. carlsonSep 4, 2024
  28. Jeff KingSep 5, 2024
  29. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2024
  30. Taylor BlauSep 5, 2024
  31. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2024
  32. Taylor BlauSep 5, 2024
  33. Taylor BlauSep 5, 2024
  34. Taylor BlauSep 5, 2024
  35. Jeff KingSep 5, 2024
  36. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2024
  37. 0/4 hash.h: support choosing a separate SHA-1 for non-cryptographic usesTaylor Blau, Sep 5, 2024
  38. 1/4 sha1: do not redefine `platform_SHA_CTX` and friendsTaylor Blau, Sep 5, 2024
  39. 2/4 hash.h: scaffolding for _fast hashing variantsTaylor Blau, Sep 5, 2024
  40. 3/4 Makefile: allow specifying a SHA-1 for non-cryptographic usesTaylor Blau, Sep 5, 2024
  41. 4/4 csum-file.c: use fast SHA-1 implementation when availableTaylor Blau, Sep 5, 2024
  42. 0/9 hash.h: support choosing a separate SHA-1 for non-cryptographic usesTaylor Blau, Sep 6, 2024
  43. 1/9 finalize_object_file(): check for name collision before renamingTaylor Blau, Sep 6, 2024
  44. 2/9 finalize_object_file(): refactor unlink_or_warn() placementTaylor Blau, Sep 6, 2024
  45. 3/9 finalize_object_file(): implement collision checkTaylor Blau, Sep 6, 2024
  46. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2024
  47. Chris TorekSep 6, 2024
  48. Jeff KingSep 10, 2024
  49. Junio C HamanoSep 10, 2024
  50. Patrick SteinhardtSep 16, 2024
  51. Taylor BlauSep 16, 2024
  52. Taylor BlauSep 16, 2024
  53. Junio C HamanoSep 17, 2024
  54. 4/9 pack-objects: use finalize_object_file() to rename pack/idx/etcTaylor Blau, Sep 6, 2024
  55. 5/9 i5500-git-daemon.sh: use compile-able version of Git without OpenSSLTaylor Blau, Sep 6, 2024
  56. Jeff KingSep 11, 2024
  57. Jeff KingSep 11, 2024
  58. Junio C HamanoSep 12, 2024
  59. Junio C HamanoSep 11, 2024
  60. Jeff KingSep 11, 2024
  61. 6/9 sha1: do not redefine `platform_SHA_CTX` and friendsTaylor Blau, Sep 6, 2024
  62. 7/9 hash.h: scaffolding for _fast hashing variantsTaylor Blau, Sep 6, 2024
  63. 8/9 Makefile: allow specifying a SHA-1 for non-cryptographic usesTaylor Blau, Sep 6, 2024
  64. 9/9 csum-file.c: use fast SHA-1 implementation when availableTaylor Blau, Sep 6, 2024
  65. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2024
  66. 0/8 hash.h: support choosing a separate SHA-1 for non-cryptographic usesTaylor Blau, Sep 24, 2024
  67. 1/8 finalize_object_file(): check for name collision before renamingTaylor Blau, Sep 24, 2024
  68. Junio C HamanoSep 25, 2024
  69. 2/8 finalize_object_file(): refactor unlink_or_warn() placementTaylor Blau, Sep 24, 2024
  70. 3/8 finalize_object_file(): implement collision checkTaylor Blau, Sep 24, 2024
  71. Jeff KingSep 24, 2024
  72. Taylor BlauSep 24, 2024
  73. Jeff KingSep 24, 2024
  74. Taylor BlauSep 25, 2024
  75. Junio C HamanoSep 24, 2024
  76. Taylor BlauSep 24, 2024
  77. 4/8 pack-objects: use finalize_object_file() to rename pack/idx/etcTaylor Blau, Sep 24, 2024
  78. Junio C HamanoSep 24, 2024
  79. 5/8 sha1: do not redefine `platform_SHA_CTX` and friendsTaylor Blau, Sep 24, 2024
  80. 6/8 hash.h: scaffolding for _unsafe hashing variantsTaylor Blau, Sep 24, 2024
  81. 7/8 Makefile: allow specifying a SHA-1 for non-cryptographic usesTaylor Blau, Sep 24, 2024
  82. 8/8 csum-file.c: use unsafe SHA-1 implementation when availableTaylor Blau, Sep 24, 2024
  83. Jeff KingSep 24, 2024
  84. Elijah NewrenSep 25, 2024
  85. Junio C HamanoSep 25, 2024
  86. Taylor BlauSep 25, 2024
  87. Taylor BlauSep 25, 2024
  88. 0/8 hash.h: support choosing a separate SHA-1 for non-cryptographic usesTaylor Blau, Sep 26, 2024
  89. 1/8 finalize_object_file(): check for name collision before renamingTaylor Blau, Sep 26, 2024
  90. 2/8 finalize_object_file(): refactor unlink_or_warn() placementTaylor Blau, Sep 26, 2024
  91. 3/8 finalize_object_file(): implement collision checkTaylor Blau, Sep 26, 2024
  92. 4/8 pack-objects: use finalize_object_file() to rename pack/idx/etcTaylor Blau, Sep 26, 2024
  93. 5/8 sha1: do not redefine `platform_SHA_CTX` and friendsTaylor Blau, Sep 26, 2024
  94. 6/8 hash.h: scaffolding for _unsafe hashing variantsTaylor Blau, Sep 26, 2024
  95. 7/8 Makefile: allow specifying a SHA-1 for non-cryptographic usesTaylor Blau, Sep 26, 2024
  96. 8/8 csum-file.c: use unsafe SHA-1 implementation when availableTaylor Blau, Sep 26, 2024
  97. Elijah NewrenSep 26, 2024
  98. Junio C HamanoSep 27, 2024
  99. Jeff KingSep 27, 2024

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