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Re: [PATCH 03/10] builtin/pack-objects.c: learn '--assume-kept-packs-closed'

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Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Jan 29, 2021, 22:57 UTC
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 05:10:20PM -0500, Taylor Blau wrote:
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> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 03:25:37PM -0500, Jeff King wrote:
> > So it may be reasonable to go that direction, which is really defining a
> > totally separate strategy from git-gc's "repack, and occasionally
> > objects age out". Especially if we find that the
> > assume-kept-packs-closed route is too risky (i.e., has too many cases
> > where it's possible to cause corruption if our assumptions isn't met).
> 
> Yeah, this whole conversation has made me very nervous about using
> reachability. Fundamentally, this isn't about reachability at all. The
> operation is as simple as telling pack-objects a list of packs that you
> do and don't want objects from, making a new pack out of that, and then
> optionally dropping the packs that you rolled up.
> 
> So, I think that teaching pack-objects a way to understand a caller that
> says "include objects from packs X, Y, and Z, but not if they appear in
> packs A, B, or C, and also pull in any loose objects" is the best way
> forward here.
> 
> Of course, you're going to be dragging along unreachable objects until
> you decide to do a full repack, but I'm OK with that since we wouldn't
> expect anybody to be solely relying on geometric repacks without
> occasionally running 'git repack -ad'.

While writing my other response, I had some thoughts that this "dragging along" might not be so bad.

Just to lay out the problem as I see it, if you do:
  - frequently roll up all small packs and loose objects into a new
    pack, without regard to reachability
  - occasionally run "git repack -ad" to do a real traversal
then the problem is that unreachable objects never age out:
  - a loose unreachable object starts with a recent-ish mtime
  - the frequent roll-up rolls it into a pack, freshening its mtime
  - the full "repack -ad" doesn't delete it, because its pack mtime is
    too recent. It explodes it loose again.
  - repeat forever

We know that "repack -d" is not 100% accurate because of similar "closed under reachability" assumptions (see my other email). But it's OK, because the worst case is an object that doesn't quite get packed yet, not that it gets deleted.

So you could do something like:
  - roll up loose objects into a pack with "repack -d"; mostly accurate,
    but doesn't suck up unreachable objects
  - roll up small packs into a bigger pack without regard for
    reachability. This includes the pack created in the first step, but
    we know everything in it is actually reachable.
  - eventually run "repack -ad" to do a real traversal

That would extend the lifetime of unreachable objects which were found in a pack (they get dragged forward during the rollups). But they'd eventually get exploded loose during a "repack -ad", and then _not_ sucked back into a roll-up pack. And then eventually "repack -ad" removes them.

The downsides are:
  - doing a separate "repack -d" plus a roll-up repack is wasted work.
    But I think they could be combined into a single step (at the cost
    of some extra complexity in the implementation).
  - using "--unpacked" still means traversing every commit. That's much
    faster than traversing the whole object graph, but still scales with
    the size of the repo, not the size of the new objects. That might be
    acceptable, though.

I do think the original problem goes away entirely if we can keep better track of the mtimes. I.e., if we had packs marked with ".cruft" instead of exploding loose, then the logic is:

  - roll up all loose objects and any objects in a pack that isn't
    marked as cruft (or keep); never delete a cruft pack at this stage
  - occasionally "repack -ad"; this does delete old cruft packs (because
    we'd have rescued any reachable objects they might have contained)

I'm not sure I want to block this topic on having cruft packs, though. Of course there are tons of _other_ reasons to want them (like not causing operational headaches when a repo's disk and inode usage grows by 10x due to exploding loose objects). So maybe it's not a bad idea to work on them together. I dunno.

-Peff
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Message 33 of 120 in “repack: support repacking into a geometric sequence”
  1. 00/10 repack: support repacking into a geometric sequenceTaylor Blau, Jan 19, 2021
  2. 02/10 revision: learn '--no-kept-objects'Taylor Blau, Jan 19, 2021
  3. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2021
  4. Taylor BlauJan 29, 2021
  5. 01/10 packfile: introduce 'find_kept_pack_entry()'Taylor Blau, Jan 19, 2021
  6. Derrick StoleeJan 20, 2021
  7. Taylor BlauJan 20, 2021
  8. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2021
  9. Taylor BlauJan 29, 2021
  10. Jeff KingJan 29, 2021
  11. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2021
  12. 07/10 packfile: add kept-pack cache for find_kept_pack_entry()Taylor Blau, Jan 19, 2021
  13. 06/10 pack-objects: rewrite honor-pack-keep logicTaylor Blau, Jan 19, 2021
  14. 05/10 p5303: measure time to repack with keepTaylor Blau, Jan 19, 2021
  15. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2021
  16. Jeff KingJan 29, 2021
  17. p5303: avoid sed GNU-ismJeff King, Jan 29, 2021
  18. Eric SunshineJan 29, 2021
  19. Jeff KingJan 29, 2021
  20. Eric SunshineJan 29, 2021
  21. Taylor BlauJan 29, 2021
  22. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2021
  23. Jeff KingJan 29, 2021
  24. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2021
  25. 08/10 builtin/pack-objects.c: teach '--keep-pack-stdin'Taylor Blau, Jan 19, 2021
  26. 10/10 builtin/repack.c: add '--geometric' optionTaylor Blau, Jan 19, 2021
  27. 03/10 builtin/pack-objects.c: learn '--assume-kept-packs-closed'Taylor Blau, Jan 19, 2021
  28. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2021
  29. Jeff KingJan 29, 2021
  30. Taylor BlauJan 29, 2021
  31. Jeff KingJan 29, 2021
  32. Taylor BlauJan 29, 2021
  33. Jeff KingJan 29, 2021
  34. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2021
  35. Taylor BlauJan 29, 2021
  36. Taylor BlauFeb 2, 2021
  37. Jeff KingJan 29, 2021
  38. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2021
  39. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2021
  40. Jeff KingJan 29, 2021
  41. Taylor BlauJan 29, 2021
  42. Jeff KingJan 29, 2021
  43. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2021
  44. 09/10 builtin/repack.c: extract loose object handlingTaylor Blau, Jan 19, 2021
  45. Derrick StoleeJan 20, 2021
  46. Taylor BlauJan 20, 2021
  47. Derrick StoleeJan 20, 2021
  48. Junio C HamanoJan 21, 2021
  49. 04/10 p5303: add missing &&-chainsTaylor Blau, Jan 19, 2021
  50. Derrick StoleeJan 20, 2021
  51. 0/8 repack: support repacking into a geometric sequenceTaylor Blau, Feb 4, 2021
  52. 4/8 p5303: add missing &&-chainsTaylor Blau, Feb 4, 2021
  53. 3/8 builtin/pack-objects.c: add '--stdin-packs' optionTaylor Blau, Feb 4, 2021
  54. Jeff KingFeb 16, 2021
  55. Taylor BlauFeb 17, 2021
  56. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2021
  57. 2/8 revision: learn '--no-kept-objects'Taylor Blau, Feb 4, 2021
  58. Jeff KingFeb 16, 2021
  59. Taylor BlauFeb 17, 2021
  60. 1/8 packfile: introduce 'find_kept_pack_entry()'Taylor Blau, Feb 4, 2021
  61. Jeff KingFeb 16, 2021
  62. Taylor BlauFeb 16, 2021
  63. 5/8 p5303: measure time to repack with keepTaylor Blau, Feb 4, 2021
  64. Jeff KingFeb 16, 2021
  65. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2021
  66. Taylor BlauFeb 17, 2021
  67. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2021
  68. 7/8 packfile: add kept-pack cache for find_kept_pack_entry()Taylor Blau, Feb 4, 2021
  69. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2021
  70. Taylor BlauFeb 17, 2021
  71. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2021
  72. Taylor BlauFeb 17, 2021
  73. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2021
  74. 8/8 builtin/repack.c: add '--geometric' optionTaylor Blau, Feb 4, 2021
  75. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2021
  76. Taylor BlauFeb 17, 2021
  77. 6/8 builtin/pack-objects.c: rewrite honor-pack-keep logicTaylor Blau, Feb 4, 2021
  78. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2021
  79. Taylor BlauFeb 17, 2021
  80. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2021
  81. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2021
  82. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2021
  83. 0/8 repack: support repacking into a geometric sequenceTaylor Blau, Feb 18, 2021
  84. 1/8 packfile: introduce 'find_kept_pack_entry()'Taylor Blau, Feb 18, 2021
  85. 2/8 revision: learn '--no-kept-objects'Taylor Blau, Feb 18, 2021
  86. 4/8 p5303: add missing &&-chainsTaylor Blau, Feb 18, 2021
  87. 3/8 builtin/pack-objects.c: add '--stdin-packs' optionTaylor Blau, Feb 18, 2021
  88. 6/8 builtin/pack-objects.c: rewrite honor-pack-keep logicTaylor Blau, Feb 18, 2021
  89. 5/8 p5303: measure time to repack with keepTaylor Blau, Feb 18, 2021
  90. 7/8 packfile: add kept-pack cache for find_kept_pack_entry()Taylor Blau, Feb 18, 2021
  91. 8/8 builtin/repack.c: add '--geometric' optionTaylor Blau, Feb 18, 2021
  92. Jeff KingFeb 23, 2021
  93. Taylor BlauFeb 23, 2021
  94. Jeff KingFeb 23, 2021
  95. 0/8 repack: support repacking into a geometric sequenceTaylor Blau, Feb 23, 2021
  96. 1/8 packfile: introduce 'find_kept_pack_entry()'Taylor Blau, Feb 23, 2021
  97. 2/8 revision: learn '--no-kept-objects'Taylor Blau, Feb 23, 2021
  98. 3/8 builtin/pack-objects.c: add '--stdin-packs' optionTaylor Blau, Feb 23, 2021
  99. Junio C HamanoFeb 23, 2021
  100. Jeff KingFeb 23, 2021
  101. 4/8 p5303: add missing &&-chainsTaylor Blau, Feb 23, 2021
  102. 6/8 builtin/pack-objects.c: rewrite honor-pack-keep logicTaylor Blau, Feb 23, 2021
  103. 5/8 p5303: measure time to repack with keepTaylor Blau, Feb 23, 2021
  104. 8/8 builtin/repack.c: add '--geometric' optionTaylor Blau, Feb 23, 2021
  105. Junio C HamanoFeb 24, 2021
  106. Junio C HamanoFeb 24, 2021
  107. Taylor BlauMar 4, 2021
  108. Taylor BlauMar 4, 2021
  109. 7/8 packfile: add kept-pack cache for find_kept_pack_entry()Taylor Blau, Feb 23, 2021
  110. Jeff KingFeb 23, 2021
  111. Junio C HamanoFeb 23, 2021
  112. Jeff KingFeb 23, 2021
  113. Martin FickFeb 23, 2021
  114. Taylor BlauFeb 23, 2021
  115. Martin FickFeb 23, 2021
  116. Jeff KingFeb 23, 2021
  117. Martin FickFeb 23, 2021
  118. Jeff KingFeb 23, 2021
  119. Martin FickFeb 24, 2021
  120. Jeff KingFeb 26, 2021

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