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Re: [PATCH 0/9] Allow overriding the default name of the default branch

From
Denton Liu <liu.denton@gmail.com>
Date
Jun 16, 2020, 00:19 UTC
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Hi Dscho,
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 12:26:03AM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
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> > For example, my vim plugins are submodules in the '~/.vim/bundle'
> > directory. When I want to update them, I run:
> >
> >   git submodule foreach 'git remote update && git reset --hard origin/master'
> >
> > With this change hitting a Git release, more and more people would call
> > their main branch different names they like. So what is the recommended
> > way to do something like this now? How do I checkout the tip of the main
> > branch? How do I push to the main branch? How do I pull from the main
> > branch? And so on...
> 
> ... has less to do with a new Git release, but more with the decision of
> an existing project to change their main branch name.
> 
> That's something users already had to deal with, of course. For example,
> projects switching to the Git Flow model will start to use the main branch
> name `development`.

I brought this concern up in a parallel thread but I'll bring it up here too since it's relevant. Currently, in the .gitmodules file, if the branch is not specified, it defaults to 'master'.

When I want to update my vim plugins, I run `git submodule update --remote` which pulls in all of my submodules' 'master' branches. By convention, a lack of `branch` key in .gitmodules conventionally means 'master'.

With your change, it becomes the value of git_main_branch_name(), which is fine for now. However, if this value changes to something else, then when I update my Git, suddenly `git submodule update --remote` will be broken for me as all of the new repositories that I pull will be for an incorrect (and possibly missing) branch.

This leaves us in a scenario where one developer running an older version of Git would have submodule updates work perfectly fine while a developer with a newer version would have it suddenly broken. This might be hard to debug, especially for someone who doesn't follow the release notes around Git and doesn't realise why the default has suddenly changed.

This problem gets much worse if we allow the main branch name to be configurable as then the *private* configurations that a developer has may have an effect on the *publicly visible* behaviour of a repository.

I think I see three possible solutions to this:
	1. Special case 'master' in submodules to retain backwards
	compatibility.
	I don't think this is very appealing as if the change is made to
	use another default branch name, then the "default" branch for
	submodules would be "master" even though the new default
	everywhere else would be different. And in the future, someone
	who doesn't know the context behind all of this would be very
	confused where there are two different default branch names.
	2. Disable 'update --remote' support for submodules that don't
	specify a branch.
	If Git detects that a branch key is missing when trying to do an
	'update --remote', it should just quit out and refuse to do
	anything. Of course, this a very backwards incompatible change
	and it would require several release cycles to implement where
	we warn users about this impending change before we actually
	make it happen.
	3. Make 'update --remote' get HEAD.
	I argue that this is how it always should've been implemented
	but, alas, I can't go back in time and fix it. Regardless, it
	might be good to flip this to be the default if we're going to
	be making the change anyway.
	Unfortunately, this suffers from both the problems of 1 and 2.
	As with 1, we'll end up in a situation where users with
	different versions of Git may experience different behaviours
	given the same public repository and I think this is definitely
	undesirable. With 2, this change will also require a long
	deprecation period which I don't think it compatible with how
	people seem to want the default branch switch to happen this
	release.

So I dunno. I think my opinion leans on not changing the default branch at all. Since it seems like the consensus is generally that it _will_ change, I think I would prefer options 3, 2 and 1 in that order.

Thoughts?
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  1. 0/9 Allow overriding the default name of the default branchJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 10, 2020
  2. 1/9 init: allow overriding the default branch name for new repositoriesDon Goodman-Wilson via GitGitGadget, Jun 10, 2020
  3. brian m. carlsonJun 10, 2020
  4. Eric SunshineJun 11, 2020
  5. Johannes SchindelinJun 11, 2020
  6. Junio C HamanoJun 11, 2020
  7. Jeff KingJun 16, 2020
  8. Jeff KingJun 16, 2020
  9. Johannes SchindelinJun 18, 2020
  10. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2020
  11. Phillip WoodJun 11, 2020
  12. Johannes SchindelinJun 12, 2020
  13. Junio C HamanoJun 12, 2020
  14. Phillip WoodJun 15, 2020
  15. Johannes SchindelinJun 14, 2020
  16. Alban GruinJun 11, 2020
  17. Junio C HamanoJun 11, 2020
  18. brian m. carlsonJun 11, 2020
  19. Johannes SchindelinJun 12, 2020
  20. Alban GruinJun 13, 2020
  21. Johannes SchindelinJun 14, 2020
  22. Jeff KingJun 16, 2020
  23. Johannes SchindelinJun 18, 2020
  24. 3/9 send-pack/transport-helper: respect `core.defaultBranchName`Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 10, 2020
  25. 2/9 remote: respect `core.defaultBranchName`Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 10, 2020
  26. Jeff KingJun 16, 2020
  27. Johannes SchindelinJun 18, 2020
  28. Jeff KingJun 18, 2020
  29. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2020
  30. 7/9 fmt-merge-msg: learn about the possibly-configured default branch nameJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 10, 2020
  31. Junio C HamanoJun 10, 2020
  32. 6/9 clone: learn about the possibly-configured default branch nameJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 10, 2020
  33. Junio C HamanoJun 10, 2020
  34. 8/9 fast-export: respect the possibly-overridden default branch nameJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 10, 2020
  35. Matt RogersJun 10, 2020
  36. Junio C HamanoJun 10, 2020
  37. brian m. carlsonJun 10, 2020
  38. Matt RogersJun 11, 2020
  39. Junio C HamanoJun 11, 2020
  40. Johannes SchindelinJun 11, 2020
  41. Re* [PATCH 8/9] fast-export: respect the possibly-overridden default branch nameJunio C Hamano, Jun 11, 2020
  42. Junio C HamanoJun 11, 2020
  43. Junio C HamanoJun 11, 2020
  44. Johannes SchindelinJun 12, 2020
  45. Junio C HamanoJun 12, 2020
  46. Johannes SchindelinJun 12, 2020
  47. Junio C HamanoJun 12, 2020
  48. Johannes SchindelinJun 12, 2020
  49. Johannes SchindelinJun 12, 2020
  50. Junio C HamanoJun 12, 2020
  51. Junio C HamanoJun 12, 2020
  52. Johannes SchindelinJun 13, 2020
  53. Junio C HamanoJun 12, 2020
  54. Johannes SixtJun 13, 2020
  55. Junio C HamanoJun 13, 2020
  56. Johannes SchindelinJun 13, 2020
  57. Junio C HamanoJun 13, 2020
  58. Johannes SchindelinJun 14, 2020
  59. Junio C HamanoJun 17, 2020
  60. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2020
  61. Junio C HamanoJun 23, 2020
  62. Johannes SchindelinJun 13, 2020
  63. Johannes SchindelinJun 11, 2020
  64. Junio C HamanoJun 11, 2020
  65. Johannes SchindelinJun 12, 2020
  66. 9/9 Document how the default branch name can be overriddenJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 10, 2020
  67. Junio C HamanoJun 11, 2020
  68. 5/9 submodule: use the (possibly overridden) default branch nameJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 10, 2020
  69. Denton LiuJun 15, 2020
  70. 4/9 testsvn: respect `core.defaultBranchName`Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 10, 2020
  71. Junio C HamanoJun 10, 2020
  72. Junio C HamanoJun 11, 2020
  73. Johannes SchindelinJun 11, 2020
  74. Junio C HamanoJun 11, 2020
  75. brian m. carlsonJun 10, 2020
  76. Taylor BlauJun 11, 2020
  77. Johannes SchindelinJun 11, 2020
  78. Pratyush YadavJun 15, 2020
  79. Johannes SchindelinJun 14, 2020
  80. Denton LiuJun 16, 2020
  81. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2020
  82. brian m. carlsonJun 15, 2020
  83. 00/12 Allow overriding the default name of the default branchJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 15, 2020
  84. 01/12 fast-export: do anonymize the primary branch nameJunio C Hamano via GitGitGadget, Jun 15, 2020
  85. Jeff KingJun 16, 2020
  86. Junio C HamanoJun 17, 2020
  87. Jeff KingJun 17, 2020
  88. Elijah NewrenJun 18, 2020
  89. Junio C HamanoJun 18, 2020
  90. Elijah NewrenJun 18, 2020
  91. Jeff KingJun 18, 2020
  92. 02/12 fmt-merge-msg: introduce a way to override the main branch nameJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 15, 2020
  93. Phillip WoodJun 15, 2020
  94. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2020
  95. Junio C HamanoJun 15, 2020
  96. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2020
  97. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJun 16, 2020
  98. Junio C HamanoJun 17, 2020
  99. Jeff KingJun 16, 2020
  100. Junio C HamanoJun 17, 2020
  101. Johannes SchindelinJun 18, 2020
  102. Johannes SixtJun 17, 2020
  103. Junio C HamanoJun 17, 2020
  104. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2020
  105. 05/12 fast-export: handle overridden main branch names correctlyJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 15, 2020
  106. Phillip WoodJun 15, 2020
  107. Jeff KingJun 16, 2020
  108. Phillip WoodJun 16, 2020
  109. Johannes SchindelinJun 18, 2020
  110. Junio C HamanoJun 15, 2020
  111. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2020
  112. 04/12 git_main_branch_name(): optionally report the full ref nameJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 15, 2020
  113. Phillip WoodJun 15, 2020
  114. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2020
  115. 03/12 send-pack/transport-helper: respect `core.mainBranch`Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 15, 2020
  116. 06/12 branch -m: adjust `core.mainBranch` if necessaryJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 15, 2020
  117. 12/12 testsvn: respect `init.defaultBranch`Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 15, 2020
  118. Jeff KingJun 16, 2020
  119. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2020
  120. 10/12 remote: learn about the possibly-overridden default main branch nameJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 15, 2020
  121. 11/12 submodule: use the correct default for the main branch nameJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 15, 2020
  122. Jeff KingJun 16, 2020
  123. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2020
  124. Jeff KingJun 23, 2020
  125. 09/12 clone: handle overridden main branch namesJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 15, 2020
  126. Jeff KingJun 16, 2020
  127. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2020
  128. 08/12 init: allow overriding the default main branch name via the configDon Goodman-Wilson via GitGitGadget, Jun 15, 2020
  129. 07/12 init: allow specifying the main branch name for the new repositoryJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 15, 2020
  130. 0/8 Allow overriding the default name of the default branchJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 23, 2020
  131. 2/8 send-pack/transport-helper: avoid mentioning a particular branchJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 23, 2020
  132. Junio C HamanoJun 24, 2020
  133. Johannes SchindelinJun 24, 2020
  134. Junio C HamanoJun 24, 2020
  135. Johannes SchindelinJun 25, 2020
  136. 1/8 fmt-merge-msg: stop treating `master` speciallyJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 23, 2020
  137. Junio C HamanoJun 24, 2020
  138. Johannes SchindelinJun 25, 2020
  139. 8/8 testsvn: respect `init.defaultBranch`Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 23, 2020
  140. 4/8 init: allow specifying the initial branch name for the new repositoryJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 23, 2020
  141. Junio C HamanoJun 24, 2020
  142. Johannes SchindelinJun 24, 2020
  143. 7/8 remote: use the configured default branch name when appropriateJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 23, 2020
  144. Junio C HamanoJun 24, 2020
  145. Johannes SchindelinJun 24, 2020
  146. 3/8 submodule: use a better fall-back for missing remote.<name>.branchJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 23, 2020
  147. Philippe BlainJun 24, 2020
  148. Johannes SchindelinJun 24, 2020
  149. 6/8 clone: use configured default branch name when appropriateJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 23, 2020
  150. 5/8 init: allow setting the default for the initial branch name via the configDon Goodman-Wilson via GitGitGadget, Jun 23, 2020
  151. Junio C HamanoJun 24, 2020
  152. Johannes SchindelinJun 24, 2020
  153. Junio C HamanoJun 24, 2020
  154. 0/9 Allow overriding the default name of the default branchJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 24, 2020
  155. 2/9 send-pack/transport-helper: avoid mentioning a particular branchJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 24, 2020
  156. 7/9 clone: use configured default branch name when appropriateJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 24, 2020
  157. 9/9 testsvn: respect `init.defaultBranch`Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 24, 2020
  158. 8/9 remote: use the configured default branch name when appropriateJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 24, 2020
  159. 4/9 docs: add missing diamond bracketsJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 24, 2020
  160. 3/9 submodule: fall back to remote's HEAD for missing remote.<name>.branchJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 24, 2020
  161. Junio C HamanoJun 24, 2020
  162. 1/9 fmt-merge-msg: stop treating `master` speciallyJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 24, 2020
  163. Đoàn Trần Công DanhJun 29, 2020
  164. Johannes SchindelinJun 29, 2020
  165. Đoàn Trần Công DanhJun 30, 2020
  166. Johannes SchindelinJul 1, 2020
  167. Junio C HamanoJul 1, 2020
  168. 6/9 init: allow setting the default for the initial branch name via the configDon Goodman-Wilson via GitGitGadget, Jun 24, 2020
  169. 5/9 init: allow specifying the initial branch name for the new repositoryJohannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget, Jun 24, 2020
  170. Junio C HamanoJun 24, 2020
  171. Johannes SchindelinJun 25, 2020
  172. brian m. carlsonJun 29, 2020
  173. Edward ThomsonJul 12, 2020
  174. Johannes SchindelinJul 12, 2020
  175. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJun 16, 2020
  176. Jeff KingJun 16, 2020
  177. Jeff KingJun 16, 2020
  178. Johannes SchindelinJun 23, 2020
  179. Junio C HamanoJun 17, 2020
  180. Johannes SchindelinJul 14, 2020

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