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Re: [PATCH v3 0/6][Outreachy] Introduce os-version Capability with Configurable Options

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Jan 31, 2025, 16:37 UTC
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Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com> writes:
> By the way, if we put the OS information in the "agent" capability,
> how do we separate it from the existing "package/version" content and
> make it easy to parse?
Do NOT parse, period.

If three "things" that talk the Git protocol on the other end of the connection gives "Linux git/2.48.0", and "macOS libgit2/1.9.0", and "Windows git/2.47.1" as their (enhanced) "agent" strings, there is no "ah, this one is 1.9.0 which way older than 2.47.1 so it must be missing features X and Y" the users of the information are allowed to infer.

Just take it as a single opaque string, and group identical ones.

In the above scenario, we found three different kinds now. Maybe we'll accumulate the counts and notice that there are N times as many connections whose agent string begins with "Windows" as "Linux" and "macOS" combined or something. That would be an offline analysis, and forcing users to do the stats offline would reduce the temptation to use it for purposes other than its intended one.

You may find "ImNotTellingYou" and may wonder what OS the user is really using, but they do not want to tell you, so you honor their wish.

> I don't see a good solution because
> GIT_USER_AGENT could be used, and the config option to not show the OS
> name could be used too.
That is a good privacy measure.
> Also we don't know what could be in the "version" part. The doc says
> that the agent part is typically of the form "package/version" but
> doesn't require it.

Exactly. I would think it is a feature, and the way to treat the string in line with the philosophy behind that feature is to take it as a single opaque thing.

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Message 103 of 107 in “[Outreachy] Introduce os-version Capability with Configurable Options”
  1. 0/4 [Outreachy] Introduce os-version Capability with Configurable OptionsUsman Akinyemi, Jan 6, 2025
  2. 1/4 version: refactor redact_non_printables()Usman Akinyemi, Jan 6, 2025
  3. Eric SunshineJan 6, 2025
  4. Usman AkinyemiJan 8, 2025
  5. 2/4 version: refactor get_uname_info()Usman Akinyemi, Jan 6, 2025
  6. Junio C HamanoJan 6, 2025
  7. Usman AkinyemiJan 8, 2025
  8. 3/4 connect: advertise OS versionUsman Akinyemi, Jan 6, 2025
  9. Junio C HamanoJan 6, 2025
  10. Usman AkinyemiJan 8, 2025
  11. Junio C HamanoJan 8, 2025
  12. Usman AkinyemiJan 9, 2025
  13. Junio C HamanoJan 9, 2025
  14. Usman AkinyemiJan 10, 2025
  15. Junio C HamanoJan 10, 2025
  16. Usman AkinyemiJan 11, 2025
  17. Junio C HamanoJan 13, 2025
  18. Usman AkinyemiJan 13, 2025
  19. Junio C HamanoJan 13, 2025
  20. rsbecker@nexbridge.comJan 13, 2025
  21. Eric SunshineJan 6, 2025
  22. Usman AkinyemiJan 8, 2025
  23. 4/4 version: introduce osversion.command config for os-version outputUsman Akinyemi, Jan 6, 2025
  24. 0/6 [Outreachy] Introduce os-version Capability with Configurable OptionsUsman Akinyemi, Jan 17, 2025
  25. 1/6 version: refactor redact_non_printables()Usman Akinyemi, Jan 17, 2025
  26. Junio C HamanoJan 17, 2025
  27. Junio C HamanoJan 17, 2025
  28. Usman AkinyemiJan 20, 2025
  29. Christian CouderJan 21, 2025
  30. Junio C HamanoJan 21, 2025
  31. 2/6 version: refactor get_uname_info()Usman Akinyemi, Jan 17, 2025
  32. 3/6 version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system detailsUsman Akinyemi, Jan 17, 2025
  33. Junio C HamanoJan 17, 2025
  34. 4/6 t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependencyUsman Akinyemi, Jan 17, 2025
  35. Junio C HamanoJan 17, 2025
  36. Usman AkinyemiJan 20, 2025
  37. Junio C HamanoJan 20, 2025
  38. Usman AkinyemiJan 21, 2025
  39. 5/6 connect: advertise OS versionUsman Akinyemi, Jan 17, 2025
  40. Junio C HamanoJan 17, 2025
  41. Junio C HamanoJan 17, 2025
  42. rsbecker@nexbridge.comJan 17, 2025
  43. Junio C HamanoJan 17, 2025
  44. Usman AkinyemiJan 20, 2025
  45. Junio C HamanoJan 21, 2025
  46. 6/6 version: introduce osversion.command config for os-version outputUsman Akinyemi, Jan 17, 2025
  47. Eric SunshineJan 17, 2025
  48. Usman AkinyemiJan 20, 2025
  49. Eric SunshineJan 20, 2025
  50. Usman AkinyemiJan 20, 2025
  51. Junio C HamanoJan 17, 2025
  52. rsbecker@nexbridge.comJan 17, 2025
  53. Junio C HamanoJan 17, 2025
  54. rsbecker@nexbridge.comJan 17, 2025
  55. Usman AkinyemiJan 20, 2025
  56. Junio C HamanoJan 21, 2025
  57. rsbecker@nexbridge.comJan 21, 2025
  58. 0/6 [Outreachy] Introduce os-version Capability with Configurable OptionsUsman Akinyemi, Jan 24, 2025
  59. 1/6 version: replace manual ASCII checks with isprint() for clarityUsman Akinyemi, Jan 24, 2025
  60. Junio C HamanoJan 24, 2025
  61. 2/6 version: refactor redact_non_printables()Usman Akinyemi, Jan 24, 2025
  62. 3/6 version: refactor get_uname_info()Usman Akinyemi, Jan 24, 2025
  63. 4/6 version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system detailsUsman Akinyemi, Jan 24, 2025
  64. 5/6 t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependencyUsman Akinyemi, Jan 24, 2025
  65. Junio C HamanoJan 24, 2025
  66. 6/6 connect: advertise OS versionUsman Akinyemi, Jan 24, 2025
  67. 0/6 [Outreachy] extend agent capability to include OS nameUsman Akinyemi, Feb 5, 2025
  68. 1/6 version: replace manual ASCII checks with isprint() for clarityUsman Akinyemi, Feb 5, 2025
  69. 2/6 version: refactor redact_non_printables()Usman Akinyemi, Feb 5, 2025
  70. 3/6 version: refactor get_uname_info()Usman Akinyemi, Feb 5, 2025
  71. 4/6 version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system detailsUsman Akinyemi, Feb 5, 2025
  72. 6/6 agent: advertise OS name via agent capabilityUsman Akinyemi, Feb 5, 2025
  73. Junio C HamanoFeb 5, 2025
  74. Usman AkinyemiFeb 6, 2025
  75. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2025
  76. Usman AkinyemiFeb 7, 2025
  77. Junio C HamanoFeb 7, 2025
  78. Usman AkinyemiFeb 7, 2025
  79. 5/6 t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependencyUsman Akinyemi, Feb 5, 2025
  80. 0/6 [Outreachy] extend agent capability to include OS nameUsman Akinyemi, Feb 14, 2025
  81. 1/6 version: replace manual ASCII checks with isprint() for clarityUsman Akinyemi, Feb 14, 2025
  82. 2/6 version: refactor redact_non_printables()Usman Akinyemi, Feb 14, 2025
  83. 3/6 version: refactor get_uname_info()Usman Akinyemi, Feb 14, 2025
  84. 4/6 version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system detailsUsman Akinyemi, Feb 14, 2025
  85. 5/6 t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependencyUsman Akinyemi, Feb 14, 2025
  86. Junio C HamanoFeb 14, 2025
  87. 6/6 agent: advertise OS name via agent capabilityUsman Akinyemi, Feb 14, 2025
  88. Junio C HamanoFeb 14, 2025
  89. Usman AkinyemiFeb 15, 2025
  90. 0/6 [Outreachy] extend agent capability to include OS nameUsman Akinyemi, Feb 15, 2025
  91. 1/6 version: replace manual ASCII checks with isprint() for clarityUsman Akinyemi, Feb 15, 2025
  92. 2/6 version: refactor redact_non_printables()Usman Akinyemi, Feb 15, 2025
  93. 3/6 version: refactor get_uname_info()Usman Akinyemi, Feb 15, 2025
  94. 4/6 version: extend get_uname_info() to hide system detailsUsman Akinyemi, Feb 15, 2025
  95. 5/6 t5701: add setup test to remove side-effect dependencyUsman Akinyemi, Feb 15, 2025
  96. 6/6 agent: advertise OS name via agent capabilityUsman Akinyemi, Feb 15, 2025
  97. Junio C HamanoFeb 18, 2025
  98. Junio C HamanoFeb 18, 2025
  99. Junio C HamanoJan 24, 2025
  100. Christian CouderJan 27, 2025
  101. Junio C HamanoJan 27, 2025
  102. Christian CouderJan 31, 2025
  103. Junio C HamanoJan 31, 2025
  104. Usman AkinyemiJan 31, 2025
  105. Junio C HamanoJan 31, 2025
  106. Usman AkinyemiJan 31, 2025
  107. Junio C HamanoJan 31, 2025

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