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Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] avoid running "git-subcmd" in the dashed form

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Aug 27, 2020, 01:22 UTC
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Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com> writes:
> Would an interesting in-between step include removing the dashed
> forms for builtins that didn't exist in Git 2.0?

I am not sure if it makes much sense to treat newer and older built-in commands differently.

Imagine that an old-timer wrote a script by somebody who trusted the "futz with PATH and you can use git-foo" promise before Git 2.0 and then the script was inherited by relatively new users. Adhering to the "when in doubt, mimic the surrounding code", which is usually a good discipline to follow, these new users, who are now in charge of maintaining the script, would add any new calls in "git-foo" form to match the local convention in good faith. And the resulting code would have been working just fine.

Before such a "in-between step" is thrown at them, that is, at which point it stops working if they were unlucky that they used a relatively new built-ins. Typically new end-users would not know which ones are old built-ins and which ones are new, I suspect.

I do agree with Dscho that "we won't let you use builtin in dashed form before you export an enviornment" I wrote was not a good way to gauge the usage of on-disk builtins. We should move the on-disk builtins to a different directory and have them point at the location with their $PATH as the escape hatch, as Dscho suggested, if we were to do this for real, I'd think.

Thanks.
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  16. pack-redundant: gauge the usage before proposing its removalJunio C Hamano, Aug 25, 2020
  17. Taylor BlauAug 25, 2020
  18. Junio C HamanoAug 25, 2020
  19. 0/3 War on dashed-gitJunio C Hamano, Aug 26, 2020
  20. 1/3 transport-helper: do not run git-remote-ext etc. in dashed formJunio C Hamano, Aug 26, 2020
  21. Eric SunshineAug 26, 2020
  22. Johannes SchindelinAug 26, 2020
  23. Junio C HamanoAug 26, 2020
  24. 2/3 cvsexportcommit: do not run git programs in dashed formJunio C Hamano, Aug 26, 2020
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  43. 0/2 avoid running "git-subcmd" in the dashed formJunio C Hamano, Aug 26, 2020
  44. 1/2 transport-helper: do not run git-remote-ext etc. in dashed formJunio C Hamano, Aug 26, 2020
  45. 2/2 cvsexportcommit: do not run git programs in dashed formJunio C Hamano, Aug 26, 2020
  46. 3/2 credential-cache: use child_process.argsJunio C Hamano, Aug 26, 2020
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  71. builtin/repack.c: invalidate MIDX only when necessaryTaylor Blau, Aug 25, 2020
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