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Re: [PATCH] Revert 'diff-merges: let "-m" imply "-p"'

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Aug 19, 2021, 18:50 UTC
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Sergey Organov <sorganov@gmail.com> writes:
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>> We need to note that the "-m" implied by "--first-parent" is "if we
>> were to show some comparison, do so also for merge commits", not the
>> "if the user says '-m', it must mean that the user wants to see
>> comparison, period, so make it imply '-p'".  The latter is what was
>> reverted.
>
> Yes, there is minor backward incompatibility indeed, and that was
> expected. This could be seen from the patch in the same series that
> fixes "git stash" by removing unneeded -m.
>
> The fix for the scripts is as simple as removing -m from "--first-parent
> -m". It's a one-time change.
> ...
>> I agree that we both (and if there were other reviewers, they too)
>> mistakenly thought that the change in behaviour was innocuous enough
>> when we queued the patch, but our mistakes were caught while the
>> topic was still cooking in 'next', and I have Jonathan to thank for
>> being extra careful.
>
> So, what would be the procedure to get this change back, as this minor
> backward incompatibility shouldn't be the show-stopper for the change
> that otherwise is an improvement?

Your repeating "minor" does not make it minor. Anything you force existing users and scripts to change is "fixing the scripts", but "working around the breakage you brought to them", which is closer to being a show-stopper. I understand that you like this feature a lot, but you'd need to be a bit more considerate to your users and other people.

I think it is a design mistake to make a plain vanilla "-m" to imply "-p" (or any "output of result of comparison"), simply because the implication goes in the other direction, so there will never be "get this change back", period, but see below.

"git log" when showing a commit and asked to "output result of comparison" like patch, combined diff, raw diff, etc. would:

 - show the comparison for non-merge commits and when
   "--first-parent" is specified (the latter is natural since it
   makes us consistently pretend that the merges were squash
   merges).
 - shows the comparison for merge commits when -m is given.

but because "--cc" and "-c" (which are used to specify how the result of comparison is shown; they are not about specifying if "normally we show only non-merges" is disabled) do not make sense in the context of non-merge commits (in other words, the user is better off giving "-p" if merges are not to be shown), they are made to imply "-m". And that is a sensible design choice. On the other hand, "--raw" (which is used to specify how the result of comparison is shown; it not about specifying if "normally we show only non-merges" is disabled) does make sense in the context of non-merge commits, so unlike "--cc"/"-c", it does not imply "-m". And that also is a sensible design choice. "-p" falls into the same bucket as "--raw", so it should not imply "-m".

But some folks may not like "log -p" to be silent about comparison for merge commits (like you are). To accomodate them, it might make sense to have a configuration that says "I like -m, so when -p or --raw or any 'how to show comparison result' option is given, please make it imply '-m'", but it should not be the default.

Thanks.
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Message 119 of 129 in “Why doesn't `git log -m` imply `-p`?”
  1. Alex HenrieApr 29, 2021
  2. Junio C HamanoApr 29, 2021
  3. Sergey OrganovApr 29, 2021
  4. Alex HenrieApr 29, 2021
  5. Sergey OrganovApr 29, 2021
  6. Alex HenrieApr 29, 2021
  7. Sergey OrganovApr 29, 2021
  8. Felipe ContrerasMay 4, 2021
  9. Sergey OrganovMay 4, 2021
  10. Junio C HamanoApr 29, 2021
  11. Junio C HamanoApr 30, 2021
  12. Sergey OrganovApr 30, 2021
  13. Junio C HamanoMay 1, 2021
  14. Sergey OrganovMay 3, 2021
  15. Junio C HamanoMay 4, 2021
  16. Sergey OrganovMay 4, 2021
  17. Junio C HamanoMay 4, 2021
  18. Sergey OrganovMay 4, 2021
  19. Junio C HamanoMay 5, 2021
  20. Sergey OrganovMay 5, 2021
  21. Junio C HamanoMay 6, 2021
  22. Sergey OrganovMay 6, 2021
  23. Junio C HamanoMay 6, 2021
  24. Sergey OrganovMay 6, 2021
  25. Alex HenrieMay 7, 2021
  26. Sergey OrganovMay 10, 2021
  27. Alex HenrieMay 10, 2021
  28. 0/6 diff-merges: let -m imply -pSergey Organov, May 10, 2021
  29. 1/6 t4013: add test for "git diff-index -m"Sergey Organov, May 10, 2021
  30. 2/6 diff-merges: move specific diff-index "-m" handling to diff-indexSergey Organov, May 10, 2021
  31. Junio C HamanoMay 11, 2021
  32. Junio C HamanoMay 11, 2021
  33. Junio C HamanoMay 11, 2021
  34. Sergey OrganovMay 11, 2021
  35. 3/6 git-svn: stop passing "-m" to "git rev-list"Sergey Organov, May 10, 2021
  36. 4/6 stash list: stop passing "-m" to "git list"Sergey Organov, May 10, 2021
  37. 5/6 diff-merges: rename "combined_imply_patch" to "merges_imply_patch"Sergey Organov, May 10, 2021
  38. 6/6 diff-merges: let -m imply -pSergey Organov, May 10, 2021
  39. Junio C HamanoMay 11, 2021
  40. Junio C HamanoMay 11, 2021
  41. Sergey OrganovMay 11, 2021
  42. Alex HenrieMay 11, 2021
  43. Sergey OrganovMay 11, 2021
  44. Alex HenrieMay 11, 2021
  45. Sergey OrganovMay 11, 2021
  46. Felipe ContrerasMay 12, 2021
  47. Elijah NewrenMay 11, 2021
  48. Sergey OrganovMay 11, 2021
  49. Elijah NewrenMay 11, 2021
  50. Sergey OrganovMay 11, 2021
  51. Junio C HamanoMay 11, 2021
  52. Sergey OrganovMay 11, 2021
  53. Junio C HamanoMay 11, 2021
  54. Jonathan NiederMay 19, 2021
  55. Sergey OrganovMay 20, 2021
  56. Felipe ContrerasMay 21, 2021
  57. Sergey OrganovMay 11, 2021
  58. Sergey OrganovMay 17, 2021
  59. Sergey OrganovMay 11, 2021
  60. Jonathan NiederMay 19, 2021
  61. Sergey OrganovMay 19, 2021
  62. Junio C HamanoMay 19, 2021
  63. Sergey OrganovMay 20, 2021
  64. Jonathan NiederMay 20, 2021
  65. Sergey OrganovMay 20, 2021
  66. 0/9 diff-merges: let -m imply -pSergey Organov, May 17, 2021
  67. 1/9 t4013: test that "-m" alone has no effect in "git log"Sergey Organov, May 17, 2021
  68. 4/9 t4013: test "git diff-index -m"Sergey Organov, May 17, 2021
  69. 3/9 t4013: test "git -m --stat"Sergey Organov, May 17, 2021
  70. 2/9 t4013: test "git -m --raw"Sergey Organov, May 17, 2021
  71. Bagas SanjayaMay 18, 2021
  72. Sergey OrganovMay 18, 2021
  73. 6/9 git-svn: stop passing "-m" to "git rev-list"Sergey Organov, May 17, 2021
  74. 8/9 diff-merges: rename "combined_imply_patch" to "merges_imply_patch"Sergey Organov, May 17, 2021
  75. 5/9 diff-merges: move specific diff-index "-m" handling to diff-indexSergey Organov, May 17, 2021
  76. Junio C HamanoMay 17, 2021
  77. Sergey OrganovMay 17, 2021
  78. Junio C HamanoMay 17, 2021
  79. Sergey OrganovMay 17, 2021
  80. 9/9 diff-merges: let "-m" imply "-p"Sergey Organov, May 17, 2021
  81. 7/9 stash list: stop passing "-m" to "git list"Sergey Organov, May 17, 2021
  82. Junio C HamanoMay 17, 2021
  83. Sergey OrganovMay 17, 2021
  84. Bagas SanjayaMay 18, 2021
  85. Sergey OrganovMay 18, 2021
  86. Sergey OrganovMay 18, 2021
  87. Junio C HamanoMay 18, 2021
  88. Sergey OrganovMay 18, 2021
  89. 0/9 diff-merges: let -m imply -pSergey Organov, May 19, 2021
  90. 1/9 t4013: test that "-m" alone has no effect in "git log"Sergey Organov, May 19, 2021
  91. 2/9 t4013: test "git log -m --raw"Sergey Organov, May 19, 2021
  92. 3/9 t4013: test "git log -m --stat"Sergey Organov, May 19, 2021
  93. 4/9 t4013: test "git diff-index -m"Sergey Organov, May 19, 2021
  94. 5/9 diff-merges: move specific diff-index "-m" handling to diff-indexSergey Organov, May 19, 2021
  95. 6/9 git-svn: stop passing "-m" to "git rev-list"Sergey Organov, May 19, 2021
  96. 7/9 stash list: stop passing "-m" to "git log"Sergey Organov, May 19, 2021
  97. 8/9 diff-merges: rename "combined_imply_patch" to "merges_imply_patch"Sergey Organov, May 19, 2021
  98. 9/9 diff-merges: let "-m" imply "-p"Sergey Organov, May 19, 2021
  99. 00/10 diff-merges: let -m imply -pSergey Organov, May 20, 2021
  100. 02/10 t4013: test "git log -m --raw"Sergey Organov, May 20, 2021
  101. 01/10 t4013: test that "-m" alone has no effect in "git log"Sergey Organov, May 20, 2021
  102. 03/10 t4013: test "git log -m --stat"Sergey Organov, May 20, 2021
  103. 04/10 t4013: test "git diff-tree -m"Sergey Organov, May 20, 2021
  104. 05/10 t4013: test "git diff-index -m"Sergey Organov, May 20, 2021
  105. 06/10 diff-merges: move specific diff-index "-m" handling to diff-indexSergey Organov, May 20, 2021
  106. 07/10 git-svn: stop passing "-m" to "git rev-list"Sergey Organov, May 20, 2021
  107. 08/10 stash list: stop passing "-m" to "git log"Sergey Organov, May 20, 2021
  108. 09/10 diff-merges: rename "combined_imply_patch" to "merges_imply_patch"Sergey Organov, May 20, 2021
  109. 10/10 diff-merges: let "-m" imply "-p"Sergey Organov, May 20, 2021
  110. Jonathan NiederAug 5, 2021
  111. Revert 'diff-merges: let "-m" imply "-p"'Jonathan Nieder, Aug 6, 2021
  112. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2021
  113. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2021
  114. Jonathan NiederAug 6, 2021
  115. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2021
  116. Sergey OrganovAug 17, 2021
  117. Junio C HamanoAug 17, 2021
  118. Sergey OrganovAug 18, 2021
  119. Junio C HamanoAug 19, 2021
  120. Junio C HamanoAug 19, 2021
  121. Sergey OrganovAug 20, 2021
  122. Jonathan NiederAug 7, 2021
  123. Johannes SixtAug 7, 2021
  124. Jonathan NiederAug 7, 2021
  125. Junio C HamanoAug 7, 2021
  126. Jonathan NiederAug 7, 2021
  127. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2021
  128. Sergey OrganovAug 17, 2021
  129. Sergey OrganovAug 16, 2021

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