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Re: Git and SHA-1 security (again)

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Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Date
Jul 18, 2016, 07:00 UTC
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Hi Brian,
On Sun, 17 Jul 2016, brian m. carlson wrote:
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> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 10:01:38AM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > Out of curiosity: have you considered something like padding the SHA-1s
> > with, say 0xa1, to the size of the new hash and using that padding to
> > distinguish between old vs new hash?
> 
> I'm going to end up having to do something similar because of the issue
> of submodules.  Submodules may still be SHA-1, while the main repo may
> be a newer hash.  I was going to zero-pad, however.

I thought about zero-padding, but there are plenty of is_null_sha1()/is_null_oid() calls around. Of course, I assumed left-padding. But you may have thought of right-padding instead? That would make short name handling much easier, too.

FWIW it never crossed my mind to allow different same-sized hash algorithms. So I never thought we'd need a way to distinguish, say, BLAKE2b-256 from SHA-256.

Is there a good reason to add the maintenance burden of several 256-bit hash algorithms, apart from speed (which in my mind should decide which one to use, always, rather than letting the user choose)? It would also complicate transport even further, let alone subtree merges from differently-hashed repositories.

Ciao, Dscho

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  1. Herczeg ZsoltJul 16, 2016
  2. brian m. carlsonJul 16, 2016
  3. Herczeg ZsoltJul 16, 2016
  4. brian m. carlsonJul 16, 2016
  5. Johannes SchindelinJul 17, 2016
  6. brian m. carlsonJul 17, 2016
  7. Duy NguyenJul 17, 2016
  8. brian m. carlsonJul 17, 2016
  9. Theodore Ts'oJul 17, 2016
  10. brian m. carlsonJul 17, 2016
  11. Junio C HamanoJul 18, 2016
  12. Jonathan NiederJul 18, 2016
  13. brian m. carlsonJul 18, 2016
  14. Johannes SchindelinJul 21, 2016
  15. Johannes SchindelinJul 21, 2016
  16. Junio C HamanoJul 22, 2016
  17. Johannes SchindelinJul 18, 2016
  18. brian m. carlsonJul 18, 2016
  19. Johannes SchindelinJul 21, 2016
  20. Duy NguyenJul 18, 2016
  21. Johannes SchindelinJul 19, 2016
  22. David LangJul 19, 2016
  23. Duy NguyenJul 19, 2016
  24. Junio C HamanoJul 19, 2016
  25. Duy NguyenJul 19, 2016
  26. Junio C HamanoJul 19, 2016
  27. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJul 18, 2016
  28. Herczeg ZsoltJul 18, 2016
  29. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJul 18, 2016
  30. Junio C HamanoJul 18, 2016
  31. Herczeg ZsoltJul 18, 2016
  32. David LangJul 18, 2016
  33. Fwd: Git and SHA-1 security (again)Herczeg Zsolt, Jul 18, 2016
  34. Johannes SchindelinJul 18, 2016
  35. Herczeg ZsoltJul 18, 2016
  36. Johannes SchindelinJul 18, 2016
  37. Duy NguyenJul 18, 2016
  38. Johannes SchindelinJul 19, 2016
  39. Duy NguyenJul 19, 2016
  40. David LangJul 19, 2016
  41. Duy NguyenJul 19, 2016
  42. David LangJul 19, 2016
  43. Duy NguyenJul 19, 2016
  44. Herczeg ZsoltJul 19, 2016
  45. Duy NguyenJul 20, 2016
  46. Johannes SchindelinJul 20, 2016
  47. Duy NguyenJul 20, 2016
  48. Stefan BellerJul 20, 2016
  49. Junio C HamanoJul 20, 2016
  50. Philip OakleyAug 22, 2016
  51. Herczeg ZsoltJul 18, 2016
  52. Johannes SchindelinJul 19, 2016

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