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Re: Git and SHA-1 security (again)

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Herczeg Zsolt <zsolt94@gmail.com>
Date
Jul 18, 2016, 15:09 UTC
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>> I think converting is a much better option. Use a single-hash storage, and
>> convert everything to that on import/clone/pull.
>
> That ignores two very important issues that I already had mentioned:

That's not true. If you double-check the next part of my message, you I just showed that an automatic two-way mapping could solve these problems! (I even give briefs explanation how to handle referencing and signature verification in those cases.)

My point is not to throw out old hashes and break signatures. My point is to convert the data storage, and use mapping to resolve problems with those old hashes and signatures. A single-hash data storage is obviously way easier to handle, than a multi-hash mass. (See Linus's old e-mail: multiple hashes [=meaning database keys] for the same content is a complete nonsense in git-speak)

> The "convert everything" strategy also ignores the problem of interacting
> with servers and collaborators. Think of hosting repositories,
> rediscovering forgotten work trees, and of the "D" in DSCM.

That's not an issue when we're working with a single repository. It's reasonable to ask for all git clients of the same repository, to support the same hash. Yes, you have the need to configure the hash algo on a per-repository basis but that's all. For importing and co-working between different repositories, it's a bit harder, problem, but it's possible to handle the conversions correctly.

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  1. Herczeg ZsoltJul 16, 2016
  2. brian m. carlsonJul 16, 2016
  3. Herczeg ZsoltJul 16, 2016
  4. brian m. carlsonJul 16, 2016
  5. Johannes SchindelinJul 17, 2016
  6. brian m. carlsonJul 17, 2016
  7. Duy NguyenJul 17, 2016
  8. brian m. carlsonJul 17, 2016
  9. Theodore Ts'oJul 17, 2016
  10. brian m. carlsonJul 17, 2016
  11. Junio C HamanoJul 18, 2016
  12. Jonathan NiederJul 18, 2016
  13. brian m. carlsonJul 18, 2016
  14. Johannes SchindelinJul 21, 2016
  15. Johannes SchindelinJul 21, 2016
  16. Junio C HamanoJul 22, 2016
  17. Johannes SchindelinJul 18, 2016
  18. brian m. carlsonJul 18, 2016
  19. Johannes SchindelinJul 21, 2016
  20. Duy NguyenJul 18, 2016
  21. Johannes SchindelinJul 19, 2016
  22. David LangJul 19, 2016
  23. Duy NguyenJul 19, 2016
  24. Junio C HamanoJul 19, 2016
  25. Duy NguyenJul 19, 2016
  26. Junio C HamanoJul 19, 2016
  27. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJul 18, 2016
  28. Herczeg ZsoltJul 18, 2016
  29. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJul 18, 2016
  30. Junio C HamanoJul 18, 2016
  31. Herczeg ZsoltJul 18, 2016
  32. David LangJul 18, 2016
  33. Fwd: Git and SHA-1 security (again)Herczeg Zsolt, Jul 18, 2016
  34. Johannes SchindelinJul 18, 2016
  35. Herczeg ZsoltJul 18, 2016
  36. Johannes SchindelinJul 18, 2016
  37. Duy NguyenJul 18, 2016
  38. Johannes SchindelinJul 19, 2016
  39. Duy NguyenJul 19, 2016
  40. David LangJul 19, 2016
  41. Duy NguyenJul 19, 2016
  42. David LangJul 19, 2016
  43. Duy NguyenJul 19, 2016
  44. Herczeg ZsoltJul 19, 2016
  45. Duy NguyenJul 20, 2016
  46. Johannes SchindelinJul 20, 2016
  47. Duy NguyenJul 20, 2016
  48. Stefan BellerJul 20, 2016
  49. Junio C HamanoJul 20, 2016
  50. Philip OakleyAug 22, 2016
  51. Herczeg ZsoltJul 18, 2016
  52. Johannes SchindelinJul 19, 2016

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