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Re: [PATCH 6/9] Documentation/technical: describe multi-pack reverse indexes

From
Taylor Blau <me@ttaylorr.com>
Date
Feb 11, 2021, 03:03 UTC
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 09:48:20PM -0500, Derrick Stolee wrote:
> nit: use multi-pack-index or MIDX, not lower-case 'midx'.
Thanks.
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> > +Crucially, the objects' positions within this pseudo-pack are the same
> > +as their bit positions in a multi-pack reachability bitmap.
> > +
> > +As a motivating example, consider the multi-pack reachability bitmap
> > +(which does not yet exist, but is what we are building towards here). We
> > +need each bit to correspond to an object covered by the midx, and we
> > +need to be able to convert bit positions back to index positions (from
> > +which we can get the oid, etc).
>
> These paragraphs are awkward. Instead of operating in the hypothetical
> world of reachability bitmaps, focus on the fact that bitmaps need
> a bidirectional mapping between "bit position" and an object ID.

Hmm. I could buy that these paragraphs are awkward, but I'm not sure that what you proposed makes it less so.

I may be a bad person to judge what you wrote, since I am familiar with the details of what it's describing. But my thoughts on that second and third paragraph are basically:

  - define the valid orderings we might consider objects in a MIDX by,
    indicating which of those orderings we're going to use for
    multi-pack bitmaps
  - motivate the need for a mapping between lexicographic order and
    pseudo-pack order
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> Here is an attempt to reword some of the context you are using here.
> Feel free to take as much or as little as you want.
>
>   The multi-pack-index stores the object IDs in lexicographical order
>   (lex-order) to allow binary search. To allow compressible reachability
>   bitmaps to pair with a multi-pack-index, a different ordering is
>   required. When paired with a single packfile, the order used is the
>   object order within the packfile (called the pack-order). Construct
>   a "pseudo-pack" by concatenating all tracked packfiles in the
>   multi-pack-index. We now need a mapping between the lex-order and the
>   pseudo-pack-order.

I struggled with what you wrote because I couldn't seem to neatly place/replace that paragraph in with the existing text without referring to yet-undefined concepts.

Maybe the confusion lies in the fact that we stray too far from the point in the second and third paragraphs. What if we reordered the second, third, and fourth paragraph like this:

		Instead of mapping between offset, pack-, and index position, this
		reverse index maps between an object's position within the MIDX, and
		that object's position within a pseudo-pack that the MIDX describes.
		To clarify these three orderings, consider a multi-pack reachability
		bitmap (which does not yet exist, but is what we are building towards
		here). Each bit needs to correspond to an object in the MIDX, and so we
		need an efficient mapping from bit position to MIDX position.
		One solution is to let bits occupy the same position in the oid-sorted
		index stored by the MIDX. But because oids are effectively random, there
		resulting reachability bitmaps would have no locality, and thus compress
		poorly. (This is the reason that single-pack bitmaps use the pack
		ordering, and not the .idx ordering, for the same purpose.)
		So we'd like to define an ordering for the whole MIDX based around
		pack ordering, which has far better locality (and thus compresses more
		efficiently). We can think of a pseudo-pack created by the concatenation
		of all of the packs in the MIDX. E.g., if we had a MIDX with three packs
		(a, b, c), with 10, 15, and 20 objects respectively, we can imagine an
		ordering of the objects like:
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> [snip]
>
> The rest of these details make sense and sufficiently motivate the
> ordering, once the concept is clear.
>
> Thanks,
> -Stolee

Thanks, Taylor

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Message 54 of 171 in “midx: implement a multi-pack reverse index”
  1. 0/9 midx: implement a multi-pack reverse indexTaylor Blau, Feb 10, 2021
  2. 1/9 t/helper/test-read-midx.c: add '--show-objects'Taylor Blau, Feb 10, 2021
  3. Derrick StoleeFeb 11, 2021
  4. Taylor BlauFeb 11, 2021
  5. 2/9 midx: allow marking a pack as preferredTaylor Blau, Feb 10, 2021
  6. SZEDER GáborFeb 11, 2021
  7. Taylor BlauFeb 15, 2021
  8. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 15, 2021
  9. 0/5 commit-graph: parse_options() cleanupÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 15, 2021
  10. 1/5 commit-graph: define common usage with a macroÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 15, 2021
  11. Derrick StoleeFeb 16, 2021
  12. 2/5 commit-graph: remove redundant handling of -hÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 15, 2021
  13. Derrick StoleeFeb 16, 2021
  14. 4/5 commit-graph: refactor dispatch loop for styleÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 15, 2021
  15. Taylor BlauFeb 15, 2021
  16. Derrick StoleeFeb 16, 2021
  17. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 16, 2021
  18. Derrick StoleeFeb 16, 2021
  19. 3/5 commit-graph: use parse_options_concat()Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 15, 2021
  20. Taylor BlauFeb 15, 2021
  21. Taylor BlauFeb 15, 2021
  22. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 15, 2021
  23. SZEDER GáborSep 17, 2021
  24. Jeff KingSep 17, 2021
  25. Taylor BlauSep 18, 2021
  26. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 18, 2021
  27. Taylor BlauSep 18, 2021
  28. Taylor BlauSep 18, 2021
  29. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 18, 2021
  30. 5/5 commit-graph: show usage on "commit-graph [write|verify] garbage"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 15, 2021
  31. Taylor BlauFeb 15, 2021
  32. Derrick StoleeFeb 16, 2021
  33. 0/4 midx: split out sub-commandsTaylor Blau, Feb 15, 2021
  34. 1/4 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: inline 'flags' with optionsTaylor Blau, Feb 15, 2021
  35. 2/4 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: don't handle 'progress' separatelyTaylor Blau, Feb 15, 2021
  36. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 15, 2021
  37. Taylor BlauFeb 15, 2021
  38. Derrick StoleeFeb 16, 2021
  39. 3/4 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: define common usage with a macroTaylor Blau, Feb 15, 2021
  40. 4/4 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: split sub-commandsTaylor Blau, Feb 15, 2021
  41. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 15, 2021
  42. Taylor BlauFeb 15, 2021
  43. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 15, 2021
  44. Taylor BlauFeb 15, 2021
  45. Derrick StoleeFeb 16, 2021
  46. Taylor BlauFeb 16, 2021
  47. 3/9 midx: don't free midx_name earlyTaylor Blau, Feb 10, 2021
  48. 4/9 midx: keep track of the checksumTaylor Blau, Feb 10, 2021
  49. Derrick StoleeFeb 11, 2021
  50. Taylor BlauFeb 11, 2021
  51. 5/9 midx: make some functions non-staticTaylor Blau, Feb 10, 2021
  52. 6/9 Documentation/technical: describe multi-pack reverse indexesTaylor Blau, Feb 10, 2021
  53. Derrick StoleeFeb 11, 2021
  54. Taylor BlauFeb 11, 2021
  55. 7/9 pack-revindex: read multi-pack reverse indexesTaylor Blau, Feb 10, 2021
  56. Derrick StoleeFeb 11, 2021
  57. Taylor BlauFeb 11, 2021
  58. Junio C HamanoFeb 11, 2021
  59. Taylor BlauFeb 11, 2021
  60. 8/9 pack-write.c: extract 'write_rev_file_order'Taylor Blau, Feb 10, 2021
  61. 9/9 pack-revindex: write multi-pack reverse indexesTaylor Blau, Feb 10, 2021
  62. Derrick StoleeFeb 11, 2021
  63. Taylor BlauFeb 11, 2021
  64. Junio C HamanoFeb 11, 2021
  65. Derrick StoleeFeb 11, 2021
  66. Junio C HamanoFeb 11, 2021
  67. 00/15 midx: implement a multi-pack reverse indexTaylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  68. 01/15 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: inline 'flags' with optionsTaylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  69. 03/15 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: define common usage with a macroTaylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  70. 02/15 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: don't handle 'progress' separatelyTaylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  71. 04/15 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: split sub-commandsTaylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  72. Jonathan TanMar 2, 2021
  73. Taylor BlauMar 2, 2021
  74. Jonathan TanMar 4, 2021
  75. Taylor BlauMar 4, 2021
  76. 06/15 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: display usage on unrecognized commandTaylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  77. 05/15 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: don't enter bogus cmd_modeTaylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  78. 07/15 t/helper/test-read-midx.c: add '--show-objects'Taylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  79. 08/15 midx: allow marking a pack as preferredTaylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  80. Jonathan TanMar 2, 2021
  81. Taylor BlauMar 2, 2021
  82. Jonathan TanMar 4, 2021
  83. Taylor BlauMar 4, 2021
  84. 15/15 pack-revindex: write multi-pack reverse indexesTaylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  85. Jonathan TanMar 2, 2021
  86. Taylor BlauMar 3, 2021
  87. Jonathan TanMar 4, 2021
  88. Taylor BlauMar 4, 2021
  89. 09/15 midx: don't free midx_name earlyTaylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  90. 11/15 midx: make some functions non-staticTaylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  91. 10/15 midx: keep track of the checksumTaylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  92. 12/15 Documentation/technical: describe multi-pack reverse indexesTaylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  93. Jonathan TanMar 2, 2021
  94. Taylor BlauMar 2, 2021
  95. Taylor BlauMar 2, 2021
  96. Jonathan TanMar 4, 2021
  97. 13/15 pack-revindex: read multi-pack reverse indexesTaylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  98. Jonathan TanMar 2, 2021
  99. Taylor BlauMar 3, 2021
  100. 14/15 pack-write.c: extract 'write_rev_file_order'Taylor Blau, Feb 24, 2021
  101. 00/16 midx: implement a multi-pack reverse indexTaylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  102. 02/16 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: don't handle 'progress' separatelyTaylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  103. Jeff KingMar 29, 2021
  104. 01/16 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: inline 'flags' with optionsTaylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  105. Jeff KingMar 29, 2021
  106. 03/16 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: define common usage with a macroTaylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  107. 04/16 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: split sub-commandsTaylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  108. Jeff KingMar 29, 2021
  109. Taylor BlauMar 29, 2021
  110. Jeff KingMar 30, 2021
  111. 05/16 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: don't enter bogus cmd_modeTaylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  112. 09/16 midx: don't free midx_name earlyTaylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  113. 07/16 t/helper/test-read-midx.c: add '--show-objects'Taylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  114. 06/16 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: display usage on unrecognized commandTaylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  115. Jeff KingMar 29, 2021
  116. Taylor BlauMar 29, 2021
  117. 08/16 midx: allow marking a pack as preferredTaylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  118. Jeff KingMar 29, 2021
  119. Taylor BlauMar 29, 2021
  120. Jeff KingMar 30, 2021
  121. 10/16 midx: keep track of the checksumTaylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  122. 11/16 midx: make some functions non-staticTaylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  123. 12/16 Documentation/technical: describe multi-pack reverse indexesTaylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  124. Jeff KingMar 29, 2021
  125. Taylor BlauMar 29, 2021
  126. 13/16 pack-revindex: read multi-pack reverse indexesTaylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  127. Jeff KingMar 29, 2021
  128. Taylor BlauMar 29, 2021
  129. 14/16 pack-write.c: extract 'write_rev_file_order'Taylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  130. 15/16 pack-revindex: write multi-pack reverse indexesTaylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  131. Jeff KingMar 29, 2021
  132. Taylor BlauMar 29, 2021
  133. 16/16 midx.c: improve cache locality in midx_pack_order_cmp()Taylor Blau, Mar 11, 2021
  134. Jeff KingMar 29, 2021
  135. Taylor BlauMar 29, 2021
  136. Jeff KingMar 30, 2021
  137. Derrick StoleeMar 12, 2021
  138. Jeff KingMar 29, 2021
  139. Junio C HamanoMar 29, 2021
  140. Taylor BlauMar 29, 2021
  141. Jeff KingMar 30, 2021
  142. Taylor BlauMar 30, 2021
  143. 00/16 midx: implement a multi-pack reverse indexTaylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  144. 01/16 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: inline 'flags' with optionsTaylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  145. 02/16 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: don't handle 'progress' separatelyTaylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  146. 04/16 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: split sub-commandsTaylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  147. 03/16 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: define common usage with a macroTaylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  148. 06/16 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: display usage on unrecognized commandTaylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  149. 05/16 builtin/multi-pack-index.c: don't enter bogus cmd_modeTaylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  150. 07/16 t/helper/test-read-midx.c: add '--show-objects'Taylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  151. 08/16 midx: allow marking a pack as preferredTaylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  152. Taylor BlauApr 1, 2021
  153. 10/16 midx: keep track of the checksumTaylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  154. 09/16 midx: don't free midx_name earlyTaylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  155. 11/16 midx: make some functions non-staticTaylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  156. 14/16 pack-write.c: extract 'write_rev_file_order'Taylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  157. pack-write: skip *.rev work when not writing *.revÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Sep 8, 2021
  158. Carlo ArenasSep 8, 2021
  159. Taylor BlauSep 8, 2021
  160. Junio C HamanoSep 8, 2021
  161. Taylor BlauSep 8, 2021
  162. Taylor BlauSep 8, 2021
  163. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 8, 2021
  164. Taylor BlauSep 8, 2021
  165. 12/16 Documentation/technical: describe multi-pack reverse indexesTaylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  166. 13/16 pack-revindex: read multi-pack reverse indexesTaylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  167. 16/16 midx.c: improve cache locality in midx_pack_order_cmp()Taylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  168. 15/16 pack-revindex: write multi-pack reverse indexesTaylor Blau, Mar 30, 2021
  169. Jeff KingMar 30, 2021
  170. Taylor BlauMar 30, 2021
  171. Jeff KingMar 30, 2021

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