Re: Lack of netiquette, was Re: [PATCH v4 00/13] New remote-hg helper

From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Date: Nov 5, 2012, 16:15 UTC
Message-ID: <CAMP44s2CWb8FqDGG4-9X2soaQ+sBLkRRtrj0EkH1YSV8AUu9bg@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <5097E290.4030700@drmicha.warpmail.net>

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net> wrote:

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> [trimmed down heavily by mjg]
> Felipe Contreras venit, vidit, dixit 05.11.2012 16:22:
>> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Michael J Gruber
>> <git@drmicha.warpmail.net> wrote:
>>> Felipe Contreras venit, vidit, dixit 02.11.2012 17:09:
>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Michael J Gruber
>>>> <git@drmicha.warpmail.net> wrote:
>
>> There is no lack of openness from my part. I hear all technical
>> arguments, and I reply on a technical basis. The problem seems to be
>> is that you expect the code submitted to be criticized, but not the
>> criticism it receives. IOW; the submitter has to put up with anything
>> anybody says about his/her code and ideas, but the *reviewer* is
>> untouchable; the submitter cannot ever criticize the reviewer. I can
>
> Feel free to criticize the criticism, just don't offend the criticizer
> (be it the reviewer or the submitter).

As I've said before; I've yet to see where exactly I have done so.

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>>> And no, using the same or similar language does not make us the same at
>>> all. Using the same language is the natural prerequisite for successful
>>> communication.
>>
>> Nobody said otherwise.
>
> Well, you did in the post I responded to:
>
>>>> The dangers of "everyone" following the same style of communication,
>>>> and making "everyone" feel comfortable, is that "everyone" ends up
>>>> being the same kind of people

Style of communication != language.

You can use the same language and have vastly different styles of communication.

Imagine a society where everyone has the same style of communication. Where your free speech ends the moment you diverge from this style. Well, historically we know these societies have not worked, because there's people with different styles of communication, and quite often it's these styles of communication that are needed for certain messages important to society to be heard.

Sure, it doesn't make you all the same, but it certainly makes it a narrow spectrum.

> In any case, I feel I've showed enough efforts and there's no point in
> dragging this on.

How convenient. When I ask you specifically for examples where I have offended anybody, or been harsh, you feel you have "showed enough efforts"?

Claims require evidence.

Cheers.

-- 
Felipe Contreras