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Re: [PATCH v4 00/13] New remote-hg helper

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Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>
Date
Oct 31, 2012, 09:30 UTC
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[quotes heavily cut down by me] Felipe Contreras venit, vidit, dixit 30.10.2012 21:15:

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> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Johannes Schindelin
> <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>>
>>> But you mentioned something about cooperation, and I've yet to see how
>>> is it that you are planning to cooperate. If you say you don't have time
>>> to spend on this, I don't see why I should worry about testing this
>>> series of patches.
>>
>> It has been mentioned before that the communication style including all
>> these snarky and nasty comments is not helpful.
> 

For the record, Johannes is not the only one being kept from looking at this series (further) by the tone of this discussion. Per hominem attacks are neither professional nor helpful. We prefer to discuss code here, just code. From my comments on an earlier version of your series you can see I've tried. The way other comment threads on this series unfolded made me choose to be a mere by-stander again.

>> and I've yet to see how is it that you are planning to cooperate.
> 
> This is also a fact. You haven't provided a branch, you haven't reviewed
> my implementation, you haven't tried it. You mentioned something about

This does not become true through iteration. Max' recent post 'On git-remote-hg (the "native" one)' [1] points at the msysgit wiki on remote-hg [2] and his remote-hg branch [3], which is based on and points at Sverre's original branch [4] and mine [5] which is [4] being regularly rebased on origin/next. The msysgit devel branch is in heavy use; I don't use mine often but run the test suite on every rebase before pushing out.

If the issues that Sverre and Dscho tried to address with their git.git core (non-helper) patches turn out to be non-issues then I assume everyone will be happy, including them. You and they have thought a lot about these things and the way hg-git sync can work. There seems to be diagreement about the way fast-export/the remote helpers communicate which revs and refs that are to be synced and updated. This is not hg-specific, and I suggest to try and clarify that issue as thoroughly and calmly as possible. Everyone will benefit, and it will make clearer which tests are appropriate, and accordingly which fixes fix real problems.

Orthogonal to this, it seems that all hg-git interfaces could take advantage of a "git heads" feature if we resurrect the old ideas (can't find the thread right now).

Hoping for the best, Michael

[1] http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/201083 [2] https://github.com/msysgit/msysgit/wiki/Guide-to-git-remote-hg [3] https://github.com/fingolfin/git/tree/remote-hg [4] https://github.com/SRabbelier/git/tree/remote-hg [5] https://github.com/mjg/git/tree/remote-hg

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Message 27 of 75 in “New remote-hg helper”
  1. 00/13 New remote-hg helperFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  2. 01/13 Add new remote-hg transport helperFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  3. 02/13 remote-hg: add support for bookmarksFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  4. 03/13 remote-hg: add support for pushingFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  5. 04/13 remote-hg: add support for remote pushingFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  6. 05/13 remote-hg: add support to push URLsFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  7. 06/13 remote-hg: make sure the encoding is correctFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  8. 07/13 remote-hg: match hg merge behaviorFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  9. 08/13 remote-hg: add support for hg-git compat modeFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  10. 09/13 remote-hg: add compat for hg-git author fixesFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  11. 10/13 remote-hg: fake bookmark when there's noneFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  12. 11/13 remote-hg: add support for fake remoteFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  13. 12/13 remote-hg: add tests to compare with hg-gitFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  14. 13/13 remote-hg: add extra author testFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  15. Jeff KingOct 29, 2012
  16. Felipe ContrerasOct 29, 2012
  17. Jeff KingOct 29, 2012
  18. Felipe ContrerasOct 29, 2012
  19. Jeff KingOct 29, 2012
  20. Felipe ContrerasOct 29, 2012
  21. Jeff KingOct 29, 2012
  22. Felipe ContrerasOct 30, 2012
  23. Johannes SchindelinOct 30, 2012
  24. Felipe ContrerasOct 30, 2012
  25. Johannes SchindelinOct 30, 2012
  26. Felipe ContrerasOct 30, 2012
  27. Michael J GruberOct 31, 2012
  28. Jeff KingOct 31, 2012
  29. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  30. Johannes SchindelinOct 31, 2012
  31. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  32. Jonathan NiederOct 31, 2012
  33. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  34. Lack of netiquette, was Re: [PATCH v4 00/13] New remote-hg helperJohannes Schindelin, Oct 31, 2012
  35. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  36. Junio C HamanoNov 1, 2012
  37. Felipe ContrerasNov 1, 2012
  38. René ScharfeNov 1, 2012
  39. Tomas CarneckyNov 1, 2012
  40. Martin LanghoffNov 1, 2012
  41. Felipe ContrerasNov 1, 2012
  42. Martin LanghoffNov 1, 2012
  43. Felipe ContrerasNov 1, 2012
  44. Andreas EricssonNov 2, 2012
  45. Michael J GruberNov 2, 2012
  46. Felipe ContrerasNov 2, 2012
  47. Michael J GruberNov 5, 2012
  48. Felipe ContrerasNov 5, 2012
  49. Felipe ContrerasNov 5, 2012
  50. Michael J GruberNov 5, 2012
  51. Felipe ContrerasNov 5, 2012
  52. Jonathan NiederNov 1, 2012
  53. Daniel BarkalowOct 31, 2012
  54. Felipe ContrerasNov 1, 2012
  55. Junio C HamanoNov 1, 2012
  56. Felipe ContrerasNov 1, 2012
  57. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  58. Michael J GruberOct 31, 2012
  59. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  60. Jeff KingNov 2, 2012
  61. Felipe ContrerasNov 2, 2012
  62. Felipe ContrerasNov 2, 2012
  63. Felipe ContrerasNov 4, 2012
  64. Thomas AdamNov 2, 2012
  65. Felipe ContrerasNov 2, 2012
  66. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  67. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  68. Felipe ContrerasNov 1, 2012
  69. Jeff KingNov 2, 2012
  70. Felipe ContrerasNov 2, 2012
  71. Felipe ContrerasNov 2, 2012
  72. Michael J GruberNov 5, 2012
  73. Felipe ContrerasNov 5, 2012
  74. Junio C HamanoNov 1, 2012
  75. Felipe ContrerasNov 1, 2012

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