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Re: [PATCH v4 00/13] New remote-hg helper

From
Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Oct 31, 2012, 10:27 UTC
Message-ID
<20121031102712.GB30879@sigill.intra.peff.net>
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<5090EFCA.7070606@drmicha.warpmail.net>
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:30:50AM +0100, Michael J Gruber wrote:
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> For the record, Johannes is not the only one being kept from looking at
> this series (further) by the tone of this discussion. Per hominem
> attacks are neither professional nor helpful. We prefer to discuss code
> here, just code. From my comments on an earlier version of your series
> you can see I've tried. The way other comment threads on this series
> unfolded made me choose to be a mere by-stander again.

Me too. I really like some of the directions the series is taking, and as the maintainer, I'd like to pick it up. But there is a big question mark for me still about how it relates to the work in msysgit, especially:

  - What advantages does this implementation have over the one in
    msysgit (i.e., new features that the other one does not have)?
  - What disadvantages? If this implementation goes into git.git,
    the msysgit one is likely to wane in popularity. What will we be
    losing by doing so? If the answer is not "nothing", how hard would
    it be to port over the missing bits?
  - The msysgit one got held up by fixes needed for fast-export. Why
    aren't those a problem for this implementation? If we are using a
    different strategy that avoids the issue, what are the limitations
    (if any) of that strategy?

I have a feeling that some of those answers are buried deep within the discussion, but I have had a hard time following all of the back and forth due to the volume and tone of the discussion. Are we at a point now where some of the participants can try to summarize the situation?

I am not saying that this implementation must be 100% better than the msysgit one. I do not want perfect to to be the enemy of good and end up with nothing. But at the same time, there really are two competing implementations, one of which has received substantially more field use. Even though the msysgit one is not in git.git, it seems like the path for making it happen exists (even if it has not been followed yet). Before merging an alternative implementation, I would want to know what we are potentially throwing away from the msysgit side, and make sure that we are not following a wrong path that msysgit has already tried and found to be lacking.

-Peff
Previous: Michael J GruberNext: Felipe Contreras
Message 28 of 75 in “New remote-hg helper”
  1. 00/13 New remote-hg helperFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  2. 01/13 Add new remote-hg transport helperFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  3. 02/13 remote-hg: add support for bookmarksFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  4. 03/13 remote-hg: add support for pushingFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  5. 04/13 remote-hg: add support for remote pushingFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  6. 05/13 remote-hg: add support to push URLsFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  7. 06/13 remote-hg: make sure the encoding is correctFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  8. 07/13 remote-hg: match hg merge behaviorFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  9. 08/13 remote-hg: add support for hg-git compat modeFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  10. 09/13 remote-hg: add compat for hg-git author fixesFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  11. 10/13 remote-hg: fake bookmark when there's noneFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  12. 11/13 remote-hg: add support for fake remoteFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  13. 12/13 remote-hg: add tests to compare with hg-gitFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  14. 13/13 remote-hg: add extra author testFelipe Contreras, Oct 28, 2012
  15. Jeff KingOct 29, 2012
  16. Felipe ContrerasOct 29, 2012
  17. Jeff KingOct 29, 2012
  18. Felipe ContrerasOct 29, 2012
  19. Jeff KingOct 29, 2012
  20. Felipe ContrerasOct 29, 2012
  21. Jeff KingOct 29, 2012
  22. Felipe ContrerasOct 30, 2012
  23. Johannes SchindelinOct 30, 2012
  24. Felipe ContrerasOct 30, 2012
  25. Johannes SchindelinOct 30, 2012
  26. Felipe ContrerasOct 30, 2012
  27. Michael J GruberOct 31, 2012
  28. Jeff KingOct 31, 2012
  29. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  30. Johannes SchindelinOct 31, 2012
  31. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  32. Jonathan NiederOct 31, 2012
  33. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  34. Lack of netiquette, was Re: [PATCH v4 00/13] New remote-hg helperJohannes Schindelin, Oct 31, 2012
  35. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  36. Junio C HamanoNov 1, 2012
  37. Felipe ContrerasNov 1, 2012
  38. René ScharfeNov 1, 2012
  39. Tomas CarneckyNov 1, 2012
  40. Martin LanghoffNov 1, 2012
  41. Felipe ContrerasNov 1, 2012
  42. Martin LanghoffNov 1, 2012
  43. Felipe ContrerasNov 1, 2012
  44. Andreas EricssonNov 2, 2012
  45. Michael J GruberNov 2, 2012
  46. Felipe ContrerasNov 2, 2012
  47. Michael J GruberNov 5, 2012
  48. Felipe ContrerasNov 5, 2012
  49. Felipe ContrerasNov 5, 2012
  50. Michael J GruberNov 5, 2012
  51. Felipe ContrerasNov 5, 2012
  52. Jonathan NiederNov 1, 2012
  53. Daniel BarkalowOct 31, 2012
  54. Felipe ContrerasNov 1, 2012
  55. Junio C HamanoNov 1, 2012
  56. Felipe ContrerasNov 1, 2012
  57. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  58. Michael J GruberOct 31, 2012
  59. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  60. Jeff KingNov 2, 2012
  61. Felipe ContrerasNov 2, 2012
  62. Felipe ContrerasNov 2, 2012
  63. Felipe ContrerasNov 4, 2012
  64. Thomas AdamNov 2, 2012
  65. Felipe ContrerasNov 2, 2012
  66. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  67. Felipe ContrerasOct 31, 2012
  68. Felipe ContrerasNov 1, 2012
  69. Jeff KingNov 2, 2012
  70. Felipe ContrerasNov 2, 2012
  71. Felipe ContrerasNov 2, 2012
  72. Michael J GruberNov 5, 2012
  73. Felipe ContrerasNov 5, 2012
  74. Junio C HamanoNov 1, 2012
  75. Felipe ContrerasNov 1, 2012

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