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[TOPIC 3/17] Obliterate

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JRJames Ramsay <james@jramsay.com.au>
Date
Mar 12, 2020, 03:57 UTC
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1. Jonathan N: sometimes people accidentally add a big file they don’t 
need. Have to use BFG and it’s a pain. Next time, maybe you just deal 
with it and ignore. This happened to Chrome. Some huge blob that was in 
the repo, should no longer be in the repo, but don’t want to rewrite 
the history. Other use cases are confidential information, like 
password, credit card number etc. Initial reactions: it’s already out 
there, rotate. Second reaction: if it’s a toxic blob it needs to be 
removed everywhere! What if someone taught kernel repo to
2. James: I’ve been in a lot of meetings with customers where they 
mentioned it’s not possible to rotate the information that was leaked 
into the repo
3. Demetr: How far back do we allow to go to obliterate?
4. Jonathan N: there are indeed horrible real-world examples where 
things to be obliterated are from a long time ago.
5. James: real cost to changing object ids: Git and tools interacting 
with it really assume that history is immutable.
6. Elijah: replace refs helps, but not supported by hosts like GitHub 
etc
     a. Stolee: breaks commit graph because of generation numbers.
     b. Replace refs for blobs, then special packfile, there were edge 
cases.
7. Demetr: Backward compatibility, wouldn’t custom handling be 
problematic for old clients.
8. Jeff H: can we introduce a new type of object -- a "revoked blob" if 
you will that burns the original one but also holds the original SHA in 
the ODB ??
9. Peff: what would this mean for signatures? New opportunity to forge 
signatures.
10. Jonathan N: if a new entity, this means you’ve changed the content 
which we want to avoid. Maybe a list of revoked blobs. If fsck notices 
missing, it should be happy. Protocol support, if someone tries to 
include a patch with it, just ignore it. Not great. Improvement would be 
to send a list of things I deliberately didn’t send. Could also 
communicate blobs to be deleted, but ignore that for v1. Learn from 
Mercurial who have a very complicated signed revocation mechanism.
11. Brian: the remote can’t be trusted, ala leftpad maintainer could 
do something malicious causing repo to become invalid.
12. Jonathan N: main scenario I’m considering is trusted company 
remote.
13. Terry: partial clone and solve large files. Maybe the server could 
handle it by converting normal clone into partial, and then handle the 
error if someone asks for that blob.
14. Jakub: one idea would simply be to treat this as a missing blob in a 
partial clone
15. Michael Haggerty: does this only apply to blobs? (Peff: no, commit 
messages can contain sensitive information; Johannes: trees contain file 
names which also can contain sensitive information)
16. Jonathan N: partial clone is not a solution for the desire to get 
rid of the blob on the server side.
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Message 40 of 106 in “Notes from Git Contributor Summit, Los Angeles (April 5, 2020)”
  1. James RamsayMar 12, 2020
  2. 1/17 ReftableJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  3. 2/17 Hooks in the futureJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  4. Emily ShafferMar 12, 2020
  5. Junio C HamanoMar 13, 2020
  6. Emily ShafferApr 7, 2020
  7. Emily ShafferApr 7, 2020
  8. Junio C HamanoApr 8, 2020
  9. Emily ShafferApr 8, 2020
  10. Jeff KingApr 10, 2020
  11. Emily ShafferApr 13, 2020
  12. Jeff KingApr 13, 2020
  13. 0/2 configuration-based hook management (was: [TOPIC 2/17] Hooks in the future)Emily Shaffer, Apr 14, 2020
  14. 1/2 hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommandEmily Shaffer, Apr 14, 2020
  15. 2/2 hook: add --list modeEmily Shaffer, Apr 14, 2020
  16. Phillip WoodApr 14, 2020
  17. Emily ShafferApr 14, 2020
  18. Jeff KingApr 14, 2020
  19. Phillip WoodApr 15, 2020
  20. Josh SteadmonApr 14, 2020
  21. Phillip WoodApr 15, 2020
  22. Jeff KingApr 14, 2020
  23. Phillip WoodApr 15, 2020
  24. Junio C HamanoApr 15, 2020
  25. Emily ShafferApr 15, 2020
  26. Junio C HamanoApr 15, 2020
  27. Jonathan NiederApr 15, 2020
  28. Emily ShafferApr 15, 2020
  29. doc: propose hooks managed by the configEmily Shaffer, Apr 20, 2020
  30. Emily ShafferApr 21, 2020
  31. Junio C HamanoApr 21, 2020
  32. Emily ShafferApr 24, 2020
  33. brian m. carlsonApr 25, 2020
  34. Emily ShafferMay 6, 2020
  35. brian m. carlsonMay 6, 2020
  36. Emily ShafferMay 19, 2020
  37. Jeff KingApr 15, 2020
  38. Emily ShafferApr 15, 2020
  39. Jeff KingApr 15, 2020
  40. 3/17 ObliterateJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  41. Konstantin RyabitsevMar 12, 2020
  42. Damien RobertMar 15, 2020
  43. Konstantin TokarevMar 16, 2020
  44. Damien RobertMar 26, 2020
  45. Elijah NewrenMar 16, 2020
  46. Damien RobertMar 26, 2020
  47. Phillip SusiMar 16, 2020
  48. Damien RobertMar 26, 2020
  49. Philip OakleyMar 16, 2020
  50. nbelakovski@gmail.comMay 16, 2020
  51. 4/17 Sparse checkoutJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  52. 5/17 Partial CloneJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  53. Allowing only blob filtering was: [TOPIC 5/17] Partial CloneChristian Couder, Mar 17, 2020
  54. 0/2 upload-pack.c: limit allowed filter choicesTaylor Blau, Mar 17, 2020
  55. 1/2 list_objects_filter_options: introduce 'list_object_filter_config_name'Taylor Blau, Mar 17, 2020
  56. Eric SunshineMar 17, 2020
  57. Jeff KingMar 18, 2020
  58. Junio C HamanoMar 18, 2020
  59. Eric SunshineMar 18, 2020
  60. Jeff KingMar 19, 2020
  61. Taylor BlauMar 18, 2020
  62. 2/2 upload-pack.c: allow banning certain object filter(s)Taylor Blau, Mar 17, 2020
  63. Eric SunshineMar 17, 2020
  64. Taylor BlauMar 18, 2020
  65. Philip OakleyMar 18, 2020
  66. Taylor BlauMar 18, 2020
  67. Jeff KingMar 18, 2020
  68. Re*: [RFC PATCH 0/2] upload-pack.c: limit allowed filter choicesJunio C Hamano, Mar 18, 2020
  69. Jeff KingMar 19, 2020
  70. Taylor BlauMar 18, 2020
  71. Junio C HamanoMar 18, 2020
  72. Jeff KingMar 19, 2020
  73. Jeff KingMar 19, 2020
  74. Christian CouderApr 17, 2020
  75. Taylor BlauApr 17, 2020
  76. Jeff KingApr 17, 2020
  77. Christian CouderApr 21, 2020
  78. Taylor BlauApr 22, 2020
  79. Taylor BlauApr 22, 2020
  80. Christian CouderApr 21, 2020
  81. 6/17 GC strategiesJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  82. 7/17 Background operations/maintenanceJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  83. 8/17 Push performanceJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  84. 9/17 Obsolescence markers and evolveJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  85. Noam SoloveichikMay 9, 2020
  86. Jeff KingMay 15, 2020
  87. 10/17 Expel ‘git shell’?James Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  88. 11/17 GPL enforcementJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  89. 12/17 Test harness improvementsJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  90. 13/17 Cross implementation test suiteJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  91. 14/17 Aspects of merge-ort: cool, or crimes against humanity?James Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  92. 15/17 Reachability checksJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  93. 16/17 “I want a reviewer”James Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  94. Emily ShafferMar 12, 2020
  95. Konstantin RyabitsevMar 12, 2020
  96. Jonathan NiederMar 12, 2020
  97. Konstantin RyabitsevMar 12, 2020
  98. Philippe BlainMar 17, 2020
  99. Eric WongMar 13, 2020
  100. Jeff KingMar 14, 2020
  101. inbox indexing wishlist [was: [TOPIC 16/17] “I want a reviewer”]Eric Wong, Mar 15, 2020
  102. 17/17 SecurityJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  103. Derrick StoleeMar 12, 2020
  104. Jeff KingMar 13, 2020
  105. Jakub NarebskiMar 15, 2020
  106. Jeff KingMar 16, 2020

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