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Re: [TOPIC 2/17] Hooks in the future

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Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Apr 13, 2020, 21:52 UTC
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:15:15PM -0700, Emily Shaffer wrote:
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> > Yeah, giving each block a unique name lets you give them each an order.
> > It seems kind of weird to me that you'd define multiple hook types for a
> > given name.
> 
> Not so odd - git-secrets configures itself for pre-commit,
> prepare-commit-msg, and commit-msg-hook. The invocation is slightly
> different ('git-secrets pre-commit', 'git-secrets prepare-commit-msg',
> etc) but to me it still makes some sense to treat it as a single logical
> unit.

Yeah, I do see how that use case makes sense. I wonder how common it is versus having separate one-off hooks. And whether setting the order priority for all hooks at once is that useful (e.g., I can easily imagine a case where the pre-commit hook for program A must go before B, but it's the other way around for another hook).

I'm just speculating, but my instinct is that it's worth trying to make the simple things as simple as possible, while still allowing the more complex things.

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> > And it doesn't leave a lot of room for defining
> > per-hook-type options; you have to make new keys like pre-push-order
> > (though that does work because the hook names are a finite set that
> > conforms to our config key names).
> 
> Oh, interesting. I think you're saying "what if option 'frotz' only
> makes sense for prepare-commit-msg; then there's no reason to allow
> 'frotz' and 'prepare-commit-msg-frotz' and 'post-commit-frotz' and so
> on?

No, what I meant was just that if we had a hook "foo/bar", then the natural option to control its hook-specific order would be:

  [hook "whatever"]
  order-foo/bar = 123

which isn't allowed ("/" is not valid in a key name). But that should be OK since we control the names of hooks and can decide not to make one with an invalid character in it. We might also support hooks for third-party programs (e.g., if a porcelain wrapper wanted to have its own "pre-switch-branches" hook or something), but it's not too much of an imposition to say that the hook name should be a valid config key.

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> I think I didn't do a great job explaining myself in that mail, but
> my idea was to let an unqualified option name in a hook block set the
> default, and then allow it to be overridden by qualifying it with the
> name of the hook in question:
> 
> [hook "unique-name"]
>   option = "some default"
>   post-commit-option = "post-commit specific version"
>   pre-push = ~/foo.sh pre-push
>   post-commit = ~/foo.sh post-commit

Yeah, that overriding system makes sense to me. Any other option "frotz" would have the same constraint, though I don't think that's too big a deal.

> Then when post-commit is invoked, option = "post-commit specific
> version"; when pre-push is invoked, option = "some default". My
> intention was to generate the hook-specific option key on the fly during
> setup.
Right that makes sense to me.
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> >   [hook "pre-receive"]
> >   # put any pre-receive related options here; e.g., a rule for what to
> >   # do with hook exit codes (e.g., stop running, run all but return exit
> >   # code, ignore failures, etc)
> >   fail = stop
> 
> Interesting - so this is a default for all pre-receive hooks, that I can
> set at whichever scope I wish.

Yes. Though I had imagined "fail" as semantics for operating on the whole list of "pre-receive" hooks, you could define it in a per-command way, too. I was thinking of it as "this is the strategy when a command fails". But you could also think of it as "what to do when this particular command fails".

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> >   [hookcmd "foo"]
> >   # the actual hook command to run
> >   command = /path/to/another-hook
> >   # other hook options, like order priority
> >   order = 123
> 
> Looks familiar enough. Now I worry - what if I specify 'fail' here too?

If there's a per-command version of "fail", then presumably it would override any per-hook. I.e., I'd expect code to resolve this at run-time, like:

  struct hook *hook = get_hook("pre-receive");
  for (i = 0; i < hook->nr; i++) {
          struct hookcmd *cmd = hook->cmds[i];
          if (run_hook(cmd->prog) != 0) {
                  enum failure_strategy f = cmd->failure_strategy;
                  if (f == FAILURE_STRATEGY_UNSET)
                          f = hook->failure_strategy;
                  switch (f) {
                  ...do whatever...
                  }
          }
  }
> It seems like I may be saying "let's set a default per hookcmd" and you
> may be saying "let's set a default per hook". Maybe you're saying "some
> options are hook-specific and some options are command-specific."

Yeah, the latter. Or it might even be that an option is sometimes hook-specific and sometimes command-specific.

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> You
> might be saying "we shouldn't need to set multiple option values for a
> single command," and I think I disagree with that based on the
> git-secrets value alone; if I'm getting ready to commit, I want
> git-secrets to run last so it can look at changes other hooks made to my
> commit, but if I'm getting ready to push, I want git-secrets to run
> first so I don't wait around for a test suite just to find that my
> commit is invalid anyways. Although, I guess with your schema the former
> would be in [hookcmd "git-secrets-committing"] and the latter
> would be in [hookcmd "git-secrets-pushing"], so I can set the ordering
> how I wish.

I think all of this is _possible_ in either scheme. We're encoding potentially tabular data into a hierarchical config structure. In either case I can set hook->cmd->option or cmd->hook->option. The question is just which arrangement makes it simplest to do the most common things.

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> Yeah, I see what you mean, and again I really like that. That lets us
> run multiples in config order easily:
> 
> [hook "pre-receive"]
>   command = /some/script
>   command = /some/other-script
>   command = some-hookcmd-header

Yep, config order makes sense as a default (though I think you could make an argument for lexical order by command-name, which allows naming things "000foo" if the user really wants to).

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> If we add a little repeated-name detection then we can also reorder
> easily this way if that's the direction we want for ordering:
> 
> {global}
> hook.pre-receive.command = a.sh
> hook.pre-receive.command = b.sh
> 
> {local}
> hook.pre-receive.command = c.sh
> hook.pre-receive.command = a.sh
> 
> for a final order of {b.sh, c.sh, a.sh}.

I'm not sure what I'd expect a repeated mention of "a.sh" to do, but as long as it's well-defined I don't really care. :)

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> I wonder - I think even something like this would work:
> 
> {global}
> [hook "pre-receive"]
>   command = no-hookcmd-entry.sh
> 
> {local for repo "zork"}
> [hookcmd "no-hookcmd-entry.sh"]
>   skip = true
>
> For most repos, now I simply invoke no-hookcmd-entry.sh on pre-receive,
> but when I'm parsing the config in "zork", now I see a populated hookcmd
> entry, and when I look it up with the key I found in the global config,
> I see that it's supposed to be skipped.

Yes, exactly. The config parsing procedure is really just filling in a "struct hookcmd" as it goes, so we don't care that they're in two separate files.

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> Although I might need to do something hacky if I have multiple hooks
> pointing to the same simple invocation:
> 
> {global}
> [hook "pre-receive"]
>   command = no-hookcmd-entry.sh
> 
> [hook "post-commit"]
>   command = no-hookcmd-entry.sh
I think your commands would be:
  command = "no-hookcmd-entry.sh pre-receive"

etc in that case, so they'd have different hookcmd blocks. You _wouldn't_ be able to just turn off all of them with one config command, though.

> I wonder if I'm getting buried in the weeds of stuff we won't ever have
> to worry about ;)

Yeah. I don't mind a little over-engineering as long as the easy things remain simple, and the hard things remain possible. But that also means we might be able to grow the hard things later (or never) as long as we have a reasonable plan for them.

-Peff
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Message 12 of 106 in “Notes from Git Contributor Summit, Los Angeles (April 5, 2020)”
  1. James RamsayMar 12, 2020
  2. 1/17 ReftableJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  3. 2/17 Hooks in the futureJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  4. Emily ShafferMar 12, 2020
  5. Junio C HamanoMar 13, 2020
  6. Emily ShafferApr 7, 2020
  7. Emily ShafferApr 7, 2020
  8. Junio C HamanoApr 8, 2020
  9. Emily ShafferApr 8, 2020
  10. Jeff KingApr 10, 2020
  11. Emily ShafferApr 13, 2020
  12. Jeff KingApr 13, 2020
  13. 0/2 configuration-based hook management (was: [TOPIC 2/17] Hooks in the future)Emily Shaffer, Apr 14, 2020
  14. 1/2 hook: scaffolding for git-hook subcommandEmily Shaffer, Apr 14, 2020
  15. 2/2 hook: add --list modeEmily Shaffer, Apr 14, 2020
  16. Phillip WoodApr 14, 2020
  17. Emily ShafferApr 14, 2020
  18. Jeff KingApr 14, 2020
  19. Phillip WoodApr 15, 2020
  20. Josh SteadmonApr 14, 2020
  21. Phillip WoodApr 15, 2020
  22. Jeff KingApr 14, 2020
  23. Phillip WoodApr 15, 2020
  24. Junio C HamanoApr 15, 2020
  25. Emily ShafferApr 15, 2020
  26. Junio C HamanoApr 15, 2020
  27. Jonathan NiederApr 15, 2020
  28. Emily ShafferApr 15, 2020
  29. doc: propose hooks managed by the configEmily Shaffer, Apr 20, 2020
  30. Emily ShafferApr 21, 2020
  31. Junio C HamanoApr 21, 2020
  32. Emily ShafferApr 24, 2020
  33. brian m. carlsonApr 25, 2020
  34. Emily ShafferMay 6, 2020
  35. brian m. carlsonMay 6, 2020
  36. Emily ShafferMay 19, 2020
  37. Jeff KingApr 15, 2020
  38. Emily ShafferApr 15, 2020
  39. Jeff KingApr 15, 2020
  40. 3/17 ObliterateJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  41. Konstantin RyabitsevMar 12, 2020
  42. Damien RobertMar 15, 2020
  43. Konstantin TokarevMar 16, 2020
  44. Damien RobertMar 26, 2020
  45. Elijah NewrenMar 16, 2020
  46. Damien RobertMar 26, 2020
  47. Phillip SusiMar 16, 2020
  48. Damien RobertMar 26, 2020
  49. Philip OakleyMar 16, 2020
  50. nbelakovski@gmail.comMay 16, 2020
  51. 4/17 Sparse checkoutJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  52. 5/17 Partial CloneJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  53. Allowing only blob filtering was: [TOPIC 5/17] Partial CloneChristian Couder, Mar 17, 2020
  54. 0/2 upload-pack.c: limit allowed filter choicesTaylor Blau, Mar 17, 2020
  55. 1/2 list_objects_filter_options: introduce 'list_object_filter_config_name'Taylor Blau, Mar 17, 2020
  56. Eric SunshineMar 17, 2020
  57. Jeff KingMar 18, 2020
  58. Junio C HamanoMar 18, 2020
  59. Eric SunshineMar 18, 2020
  60. Jeff KingMar 19, 2020
  61. Taylor BlauMar 18, 2020
  62. 2/2 upload-pack.c: allow banning certain object filter(s)Taylor Blau, Mar 17, 2020
  63. Eric SunshineMar 17, 2020
  64. Taylor BlauMar 18, 2020
  65. Philip OakleyMar 18, 2020
  66. Taylor BlauMar 18, 2020
  67. Jeff KingMar 18, 2020
  68. Re*: [RFC PATCH 0/2] upload-pack.c: limit allowed filter choicesJunio C Hamano, Mar 18, 2020
  69. Jeff KingMar 19, 2020
  70. Taylor BlauMar 18, 2020
  71. Junio C HamanoMar 18, 2020
  72. Jeff KingMar 19, 2020
  73. Jeff KingMar 19, 2020
  74. Christian CouderApr 17, 2020
  75. Taylor BlauApr 17, 2020
  76. Jeff KingApr 17, 2020
  77. Christian CouderApr 21, 2020
  78. Taylor BlauApr 22, 2020
  79. Taylor BlauApr 22, 2020
  80. Christian CouderApr 21, 2020
  81. 6/17 GC strategiesJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  82. 7/17 Background operations/maintenanceJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  83. 8/17 Push performanceJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  84. 9/17 Obsolescence markers and evolveJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  85. Noam SoloveichikMay 9, 2020
  86. Jeff KingMay 15, 2020
  87. 10/17 Expel ‘git shell’?James Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  88. 11/17 GPL enforcementJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  89. 12/17 Test harness improvementsJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  90. 13/17 Cross implementation test suiteJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  91. 14/17 Aspects of merge-ort: cool, or crimes against humanity?James Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  92. 15/17 Reachability checksJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  93. 16/17 “I want a reviewer”James Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  94. Emily ShafferMar 12, 2020
  95. Konstantin RyabitsevMar 12, 2020
  96. Jonathan NiederMar 12, 2020
  97. Konstantin RyabitsevMar 12, 2020
  98. Philippe BlainMar 17, 2020
  99. Eric WongMar 13, 2020
  100. Jeff KingMar 14, 2020
  101. inbox indexing wishlist [was: [TOPIC 16/17] “I want a reviewer”]Eric Wong, Mar 15, 2020
  102. 17/17 SecurityJames Ramsay, Mar 12, 2020
  103. Derrick StoleeMar 12, 2020
  104. Jeff KingMar 13, 2020
  105. Jakub NarebskiMar 15, 2020
  106. Jeff KingMar 16, 2020

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