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Re: [PATCH 6/8] git-prompt: add fallback for shells without $'...'

From
avih <avihpit@yahoo.com>
Date
Jul 25, 2024, 20:03 UTC
Message-ID
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 On Thursday, July 25, 2024 at 07:19:56 PM GMT+3, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
> I think you are over-engineering this.  We do not have immediate
> need for such facility to be used by other scripts.  On the other
> hand, we know exactly what git-prompt wants to see available, and
> you already implemented them.
Yes. It was a misunderstanding on my part, and it was overengineered.

But because I initially misinterpreted your statement as "disallow $'...' at the guidelines, and we need to find one variant (form) to use", it got me thinking, because I wasn't very happy with the existing form at the patch either.

And it did eventually lead to a solution we both liked. I'm OK taking that road, but next time I should probably wait a bit more before going pulic with half-baked ideas.

> So just losing "make assignment asuming $'blah' works, and then
> reassign based on what printf gave us" and always using the printf
> thing is what we want to see here.
Yes.
> Are you sure that everybody's implementation of printf(1) is happy
> with \d and \dd?  I am an old timer who learnt in a distant past to
> always spell octals as \ddd without omitting any leading 0-digit,
> because some was unhappy.
If I knew who "everybody" is, then maybe.

But "learned in the distant past" does carry weight, as do existing practices. However, there seem to be almost no cases in non - /t/... files, and most of them are in git-prompt.sh.

In test scripts though, it's a mixed bag. I think in decreasing order
of popularity:
- Always use \ddd form.
- Allow less than 3 if it begins with 0, like \01, and many \0 .
- Yes, \1 or \4 are fine (there are not many of those).

I'll use the \ddd form you because you prefer it and it does seem the most popular (I think also outside of git codebase), and even if only for being bullet-proof against following '0'-'7' chars at the string.

But back to the question of how much I'm sure, then I'm sure there are exceptions, but I couldn't find one yet.

It works in all the shell-builtin-printf I have access to (~ 20), as well as gnu /bin/printf. Obviously there are many common ancestors there (esp. ash and pdksh), but they are still different codebases, and others don't share code with those, like ksh, bash, Schily, yash.

As a cute data point, this printf statement, copy-pasted into a 1981 BSD 2.11 running on PDP11, prints the exact output as it does today:

    printf 'a="\1" b="\2" c="\33" d="\n" e="\r\n"' | od -c
https://skn.noip.me/pdp11/pdp11.html  ("boot RP1", user root, no pass)
On Thursday, July 25, 2024 at 07:24:08 PM GMT+3, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
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> avih <avihpit@yahoo.com> writes:
> >    eval "$(printf '
> >        __git_SOH="\1" __git_STX="\2" __git_ESC="\33"
> >        __git_LF="\n" __git_CRLF="\r\n"
> >    ')"
>
> Modulo my superstition against \d and \dd, the above does look
> very readable and hard to break.
Thanks.
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Message 15 of 80 in “git-prompt: support more shells”
  1. 0/8 git-prompt: support more shellsAvi Halachmi via GitGitGadget, Jul 23, 2024
  2. 1/8 git-prompt: use here-doc instead of here-stringAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Jul 23, 2024
  3. 2/8 git-prompt: fix uninitialized variableAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Jul 23, 2024
  4. 3/8 git-prompt: don't use shell arraysAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Jul 23, 2024
  5. 4/8 git-prompt: replace [[...]] with standard codeAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Jul 23, 2024
  6. 5/8 git-prompt: add some missing quotesAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Jul 23, 2024
  7. Junio C HamanoJul 23, 2024
  8. avihJul 24, 2024
  9. 6/8 git-prompt: add fallback for shells without $'...'Avi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Jul 23, 2024
  10. Junio C HamanoJul 23, 2024
  11. avihJul 24, 2024
  12. avihJul 25, 2024
  13. avihJul 25, 2024
  14. Junio C HamanoJul 25, 2024
  15. avihJul 25, 2024
  16. Junio C HamanoJul 25, 2024
  17. avihAug 14, 2024
  18. Junio C HamanoAug 14, 2024
  19. avihAug 15, 2024
  20. Junio C HamanoAug 15, 2024
  21. 7/8 git-prompt: ta-da! document usage in other shellsAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Jul 23, 2024
  22. 8/8 git-prompt: support custom 0-width PS1 markersAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Jul 23, 2024
  23. brian m. carlsonJul 23, 2024
  24. avihJul 24, 2024
  25. Junio C HamanoJul 24, 2024
  26. Junio C HamanoJul 24, 2024
  27. avihJul 24, 2024
  28. 0/8 git-prompt: support more shells v2Avi Halachmi via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2024
  29. 1/8 git-prompt: use here-doc instead of here-stringAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2024
  30. Patrick SteinhardtAug 16, 2024
  31. avihAug 16, 2024
  32. Patrick SteinhardtAug 16, 2024
  33. 2/8 git-prompt: fix uninitialized variableAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2024
  34. 3/8 git-prompt: don't use shell arraysAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2024
  35. Patrick SteinhardtAug 16, 2024
  36. avihAug 16, 2024
  37. Patrick SteinhardtAug 16, 2024
  38. avihAug 16, 2024
  39. Patrick SteinhardtAug 16, 2024
  40. 4/8 git-prompt: replace [[...]] with standard codeAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2024
  41. Junio C HamanoAug 15, 2024
  42. avihAug 16, 2024
  43. Junio C HamanoAug 16, 2024
  44. 5/8 git-prompt: add some missing quotesAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2024
  45. Junio C HamanoAug 15, 2024
  46. avihAug 15, 2024
  47. Junio C HamanoAug 15, 2024
  48. avihAug 15, 2024
  49. 6/8 git-prompt: don't use shell $'...'Avi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2024
  50. 7/8 git-prompt: ta-da! document usage in other shellsAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2024
  51. Patrick SteinhardtAug 16, 2024
  52. avihAug 16, 2024
  53. 8/8 git-prompt: support custom 0-width PS1 markersAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 15, 2024
  54. Junio C HamanoAug 15, 2024
  55. Patrick SteinhardtAug 16, 2024
  56. 0/8 git-prompt: support more shells v3Avi Halachmi via GitGitGadget, Aug 17, 2024
  57. 1/8 git-prompt: use here-doc instead of here-stringAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 17, 2024
  58. 2/8 git-prompt: fix uninitialized variableAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 17, 2024
  59. 3/8 git-prompt: don't use shell arraysAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 17, 2024
  60. 4/8 git-prompt: replace [[...]] with standard codeAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 17, 2024
  61. 5/8 git-prompt: add some missing quotesAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 17, 2024
  62. Eric SunshineAug 17, 2024
  63. avihAug 17, 2024
  64. Junio C HamanoAug 17, 2024
  65. avihAug 17, 2024
  66. 6/8 git-prompt: don't use shell $'...'Avi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 17, 2024
  67. 7/8 git-prompt: ta-da! document usage in other shellsAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 17, 2024
  68. 8/8 git-prompt: support custom 0-width PS1 markersAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 17, 2024
  69. 0/8 git-prompt: support more shells v4Avi Halachmi via GitGitGadget, Aug 20, 2024
  70. 1/8 git-prompt: use here-doc instead of here-stringAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 20, 2024
  71. 2/8 git-prompt: fix uninitialized variableAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 20, 2024
  72. 3/8 git-prompt: don't use shell arraysAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 20, 2024
  73. 4/8 git-prompt: replace [[...]] with standard codeAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 20, 2024
  74. 5/8 git-prompt: add some missing quotesAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 20, 2024
  75. 6/8 git-prompt: don't use shell $'...'Avi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 20, 2024
  76. 7/8 git-prompt: ta-da! document usage in other shellsAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 20, 2024
  77. 8/8 git-prompt: support custom 0-width PS1 markersAvi Halachmi (:avih) via GitGitGadget, Aug 20, 2024
  78. Junio C HamanoAug 20, 2024
  79. avihAug 20, 2024
  80. avihAug 28, 2024

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