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Re: [PATCH v3 6/6] core.fsyncobjectfiles: enable batch mode for testing

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Sep 15, 2021, 16:21 UTC
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"Neeraj Singh via GitGitGadget" <gitgitgadget@gmail.com> writes:
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> From: Neeraj Singh <neerajsi@microsoft.com>
>
> Signed-off-by: Neeraj Singh <neerajsi@microsoft.com>
> ---
>  environment.c | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/environment.c b/environment.c
> index 3e23eafff80..27d5e11267e 100644
> --- a/environment.c
> +++ b/environment.c
> @@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ const char *git_hooks_path;
>  int zlib_compression_level = Z_BEST_SPEED;
>  int core_compression_level;
>  int pack_compression_level = Z_DEFAULT_COMPRESSION;
> -enum FSYNC_OBJECT_FILES_MODE fsync_object_files;
> +enum FSYNC_OBJECT_FILES_MODE fsync_object_files = FSYNC_OBJECT_FILES_BATCH;
>  size_t packed_git_window_size = DEFAULT_PACKED_GIT_WINDOW_SIZE;
>  size_t packed_git_limit = DEFAULT_PACKED_GIT_LIMIT;
>  size_t delta_base_cache_limit = 96 * 1024 * 1024;

Despite what the title of the change claims, this is not "enable for testing", but "enable for everybody even in production", isn't it?

I'd prefer we do not do this, certainly not for "testing".

If setting the variable to "batch" were meant to eventually improve performance for all different flavours of workload, I do not think we would mind if we set it to "batch" for those who opt into the "experimental" set of features by setting the feature.experimental configuration variable to true. And after a few development cycles when the feature proves to be useful for everybody, we may want to apply this patch under a justification that is different from "for testing".

On the other hand, if this is meant to help 85% of people while degrading the remainder of workflow, I do not think we would want to see this change without a warning that says something along the lines of "under rare circumstances (e.g. if you employ such and such workflow), the new default value used for the core.fsyncObjectFiles configuration variable will hurt performance."

Since this is about answering the question "between performance and crash resilience, where do you as an end user strike the balance for your needs?", I do not think it falls into either of the above two categories.

The only plausible justification I can think of to apply a "we default to 'batch' for everybody" patch with is something like:

    Now with the 'batch' setting for core.fsyncObjectFiles, unlike
    'true' that paid very high overhead, the overhead to ensure our
    writes hit the disk platters has so greatly been reduced that it
    hurts the performance only negligibly.  Let's switch the default
    from the unsafe value of 'false' to safer and performant value
    of 'batch'.
I however doubt with the current round of patches, we are there yet.
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  1. 0/2 [RFC] Implement a bulk-checkin option for core.fsyncObjectFilesNeeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget, Aug 25, 2021
  2. 1/2 object-file: use futimes rather than utimeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Aug 25, 2021
  3. Johannes SchindelinAug 25, 2021
  4. Neeraj SinghAug 25, 2021
  5. 2/2 core.fsyncobjectfiles: batch disk flushesNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Aug 25, 2021
  6. Christoph HellwigAug 25, 2021
  7. Neeraj SinghAug 25, 2021
  8. Christoph HellwigAug 26, 2021
  9. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonAug 25, 2021
  10. Neeraj SinghAug 26, 2021
  11. Christoph HellwigAug 26, 2021
  12. Neeraj SinghAug 28, 2021
  13. Christoph HellwigAug 28, 2021
  14. Neeraj SinghAug 31, 2021
  15. Christoph HellwigSep 1, 2021
  16. Christoph HellwigAug 26, 2021
  17. Johannes SchindelinAug 25, 2021
  18. Junio C HamanoAug 25, 2021
  19. Neeraj SinghAug 26, 2021
  20. Neeraj SinghAug 25, 2021
  21. 0/6 Implement a batched fsync option for core.fsyncObjectFilesNeeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget, Aug 27, 2021
  22. 1/6 object-file: use futimens rather than utimeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Aug 27, 2021
  23. 2/6 bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' booleanNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Aug 27, 2021
  24. 3/6 core.fsyncobjectfiles: batched disk flushesNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Aug 27, 2021
  25. 5/6 update-index: use the bulk-checkin infrastructureNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Aug 27, 2021
  26. 6/6 core.fsyncobjectfiles: performance tests for add and stashNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Aug 27, 2021
  27. 4/6 core.fsyncobjectfiles: add windows support for batch modeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Aug 27, 2021
  28. Neeraj SinghSep 7, 2021
  29. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 7, 2021
  30. Randall S. BeckerSep 7, 2021
  31. Neeraj SinghSep 8, 2021
  32. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 8, 2021
  33. Randall S. BeckerSep 8, 2021
  34. Neeraj SinghSep 8, 2021
  35. Neeraj SinghSep 8, 2021
  36. Junio C HamanoSep 8, 2021
  37. Christoph HellwigSep 8, 2021
  38. Randall S. BeckerSep 8, 2021
  39. 'Christoph Hellwig'Sep 8, 2021
  40. Randall S. BeckerSep 8, 2021
  41. Neeraj SinghSep 8, 2021
  42. Junio C HamanoSep 8, 2021
  43. Neeraj SinghSep 8, 2021
  44. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 8, 2021
  45. 0/6 Implement a batched fsync option for core.fsyncObjectFilesNeeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 14, 2021
  46. 1/6 bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' booleanNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 14, 2021
  47. 2/6 core.fsyncobjectfiles: batched disk flushesNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 14, 2021
  48. Bagas SanjayaSep 14, 2021
  49. Neeraj SinghSep 14, 2021
  50. Junio C HamanoSep 14, 2021
  51. Junio C HamanoSep 14, 2021
  52. Neeraj SinghSep 15, 2021
  53. 3/6 core.fsyncobjectfiles: add windows support for batch modeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 14, 2021
  54. 4/6 update-index: use the bulk-checkin infrastructureNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 14, 2021
  55. Junio C HamanoSep 14, 2021
  56. 5/6 core.fsyncobjectfiles: performance tests for add and stashNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 14, 2021
  57. 6/6 core.fsyncobjectfiles: enable batch mode for testingNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 14, 2021
  58. Junio C HamanoSep 15, 2021
  59. Neeraj SinghSep 15, 2021
  60. Junio C HamanoSep 15, 2021
  61. Junio C HamanoSep 16, 2021
  62. Christoph HellwigSep 14, 2021
  63. 0/6 Implement a batched fsync option for core.fsyncObjectFilesNeeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 20, 2021
  64. 5/6 core.fsyncobjectfiles: tests for batch modeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 20, 2021
  65. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 21, 2021
  66. Neeraj SinghSep 22, 2021
  67. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 22, 2021
  68. Neeraj SinghSep 22, 2021
  69. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 22, 2021
  70. 2/6 core.fsyncobjectfiles: batched disk flushesNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 20, 2021
  71. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 21, 2021
  72. Neeraj SinghSep 22, 2021
  73. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 22, 2021
  74. Neeraj SinghSep 22, 2021
  75. 1/6 bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' booleanNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 20, 2021
  76. 4/6 update-index: use the bulk-checkin infrastructureNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 20, 2021
  77. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 21, 2021
  78. Neeraj SinghSep 22, 2021
  79. Neeraj SinghSep 23, 2021
  80. 3/6 core.fsyncobjectfiles: add windows support for batch modeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 20, 2021
  81. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 21, 2021
  82. Neeraj SinghSep 22, 2021
  83. 6/6 core.fsyncobjectfiles: performance tests for add and stashNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 20, 2021
  84. 0/7 Implement a batched fsync option for core.fsyncObjectFilesNeeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  85. 1/7 object-file.c: do not rename in a temp odbNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  86. 2/7 bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' booleanNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  87. 3/7 core.fsyncobjectfiles: batched disk flushesNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  88. Neeraj SinghSep 24, 2021
  89. 4/7 update-index: use the bulk-checkin infrastructureNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  90. Neeraj SinghSep 24, 2021
  91. 5/7 unpack-objects: use the bulk-checkin infrastructureNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  92. 6/7 core.fsyncobjectfiles: tests for batch modeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  93. 7/7 core.fsyncobjectfiles: performance tests for add and stashNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  94. Neeraj SinghSep 24, 2021
  95. 0/8 Implement a batched fsync option for core.fsyncObjectFilesNeeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  96. 1/8 object-file.c: do not rename in a temp odbNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  97. 2/8 bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' booleanNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  98. 3/8 core.fsyncobjectfiles: batched disk flushesNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  99. Bagas SanjayaSep 25, 2021
  100. Neeraj SinghSep 27, 2021
  101. 5/8 update-index: use the bulk-checkin infrastructureNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  102. 4/8 core.fsyncobjectfiles: add windows support for batch modeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  103. Junio C HamanoSep 27, 2021
  104. Neeraj SinghSep 27, 2021
  105. Neeraj SinghSep 27, 2021
  106. Junio C HamanoSep 27, 2021
  107. 6/8 unpack-objects: use the bulk-checkin infrastructureNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  108. 8/8 core.fsyncobjectfiles: performance tests for add and stashNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  109. 7/8 core.fsyncobjectfiles: tests for batch modeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 24, 2021
  110. 0/9 Implement a batched fsync option for core.fsyncObjectFilesNeeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 28, 2021
  111. 1/9 object-file.c: do not rename in a temp odbNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 28, 2021
  112. Jeff KingSep 28, 2021
  113. Neeraj SinghSep 29, 2021
  114. 3/9 bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' booleanNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 28, 2021
  115. 2/9 tmp-objdir: new API for creating temporary writable databasesNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 28, 2021
  116. Elijah NewrenSep 29, 2021
  117. Neeraj SinghSep 29, 2021
  118. 4/9 core.fsyncobjectfiles: batched disk flushesNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 28, 2021
  119. 5/9 core.fsyncobjectfiles: add windows support for batch modeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 28, 2021
  120. 6/9 update-index: use the bulk-checkin infrastructureNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 28, 2021
  121. 8/9 core.fsyncobjectfiles: tests for batch modeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 28, 2021
  122. 7/9 unpack-objects: use the bulk-checkin infrastructureNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 28, 2021
  123. 9/9 core.fsyncobjectfiles: performance tests for add and stashNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Sep 28, 2021
  124. 0/9 Implement a batched fsync option for core.fsyncObjectFilesNeeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget, Oct 4, 2021
  125. 1/9 tmp-objdir: new API for creating temporary writable databasesNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Oct 4, 2021
  126. 2/9 tmp-objdir: disable ref updates when replacing the primary odbNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Oct 4, 2021
  127. 3/9 bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' booleanNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Oct 4, 2021
  128. 4/9 core.fsyncobjectfiles: batched disk flushesNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Oct 4, 2021
  129. 5/9 core.fsyncobjectfiles: add windows support for batch modeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Oct 4, 2021
  130. 6/9 update-index: use the bulk-checkin infrastructureNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Oct 4, 2021
  131. 7/9 unpack-objects: use the bulk-checkin infrastructureNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Oct 4, 2021
  132. 8/9 core.fsyncobjectfiles: tests for batch modeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Oct 4, 2021
  133. 9/9 core.fsyncobjectfiles: performance tests for add and stashNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Oct 4, 2021
  134. 0/9 Implement a batched fsync option for core.fsyncObjectFilesNeeraj K. Singh via GitGitGadget, Nov 15, 2021
  135. 2/9 tmp-objdir: disable ref updates when replacing the primary odbNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Nov 15, 2021
  136. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 16, 2021
  137. Neeraj SinghNov 16, 2021
  138. 1/9 tmp-objdir: new API for creating temporary writable databasesNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Nov 15, 2021
  139. Elijah NewrenNov 30, 2021
  140. Neeraj SinghNov 30, 2021
  141. Elijah NewrenNov 30, 2021
  142. 3/9 bulk-checkin: rename 'state' variable and separate 'plugged' booleanNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Nov 15, 2021
  143. 4/9 core.fsyncobjectfiles: batched disk flushesNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Nov 15, 2021
  144. 5/9 core.fsyncobjectfiles: add windows support for batch modeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Nov 15, 2021
  145. 6/9 update-index: use the bulk-checkin infrastructureNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Nov 15, 2021
  146. 7/9 unpack-objects: use the bulk-checkin infrastructureNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Nov 15, 2021
  147. 8/9 core.fsyncobjectfiles: tests for batch modeNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Nov 15, 2021
  148. 9/9 core.fsyncobjectfiles: performance tests for add and stashNeeraj Singh via GitGitGadget, Nov 15, 2021
  149. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 16, 2021
  150. Neeraj SinghNov 17, 2021
  151. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 17, 2021
  152. Neeraj SinghNov 18, 2021
  153. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonDec 1, 2021
  154. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMar 9, 2022
  155. Neeraj SinghMar 10, 2022
  156. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMar 10, 2022
  157. Neeraj SinghMar 10, 2022
  158. rsbecker@nexbridge.comMar 10, 2022
  159. Neeraj SinghMar 10, 2022
  160. rsbecker@nexbridge.comMar 10, 2022

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