Re: [PATCH 2/2] Move sequencer to builtin

From: Thomas Rast <trast@inf.ethz.ch>
Date: Jun 9, 2013, 17:53 UTC
Message-ID: <87wqq39nmr.fsf@hexa.v.cablecom.net>
In-Reply-To: <CAMP44s3NhNUuCvW37UaMo9KbHHxZqBE8S15h845vtRi89Bu6WA@mail.gmail.com>

Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> writes:

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> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 08, 2013 at 09:17:56PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>>
>>> > Definitely, yes.  Even if you look at the impact on code alone and
>>> > don't care about the people, destroying a collegial work environment
>>> > is harmful enough to the code to outweigh the (admittedly often
>>> > useful) patches.
>>>
>>> A collegial work environment is overrated, and proof of that the Linux
>>> kernel, where honest and straight talk is the bread and butter of the
>>> mailing list. And the Linux kernel is the most successful software
>>> project in history by far. It's code that speaks.
>>
>> Sorry, but I don't agree, and I want to publicly state my opinion so
>> that Jonathan (and other bystanders on the list) knows that he is not
>> alone in his opinions.

FWIW, I'll add my voice here.

In addition to what has been said by Jeff and Jonathan already (and with which I agree), I would like to point out one observation about your style of discussion that I find particularly unproductive.

You have a tendency, when facing arguments by someone who does not agree with you, of picking out one (usually minor) point of their statement and attacking just *that* on grounds that are usually much harder to argue, without regard for the bigger issue. In effect you are attempting to shift a significant burden of proof back to the other party.

Case in point:

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>> I have consistently found your demeanor on the list to be very
>> unfriendly and difficult to work with. It is one thing to have honest
>> and straight talk, and another thing to be obstinate, unmindful of
>> feedback (both with respect to technical details, as well as to
>> communication styles), and disrespectful of other people.
>
> Go back to my 261 commits, show me one that is "unmindful of technical details".

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Thomas Rast
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