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Re: [PATCH] doc: replace jargon word "impact" with "effect"/"affect"

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Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Date
May 12, 2021, 02:59 UTC
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Michal Suchánek wrote:
> Also there is no single authority on the English language. The language
> is spoken in multiple distinct countries, and even within one country
> there is some variation. It also evolves over time.

And this is precisely the reason why you target the least common denominator.

Do you have **any** instance in which the sentence with "affect" reads worse than with "impact"?

> Since you can look up the meaning of the word in a general purpose
> dictionary it should be an acceptable use even if it's less commonly
> used in some other English-speaking parts of the world.

If you are writing classic prose, and most of your audience needs to use the dictionary to understand what you meant, you have failed.

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> > > If you do wholesale word replacement in the project for no good reason
> > > it only makes working with the project history harder.
> > 
> > I'm not sure I understand the sentiment here. As in, the Git history
> > will be polluted? Because the "git blame" command will only show
> > changes for the lines where I changed the single words.
> 
> Yes, it will be polluted. And since we have an opinion of another native
> English speaker that the use of 'impact' as synonym for affect/effect is
> fine this is clearly a matter of opinion.

It's not just native English speakers that read the English documentation.

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> This topic somewhat interests me so I was continuing this discussion
> in the hope that you either provide a specific very confusing use of the
> word impact in the documentation that triggered creating this patch or
> some solid evidence that the general use of word 'impact' as synonym for
> affect/effect is in some way problematic but niether happened.
This is not how improvements work.

We have two options: $a, and $b. You argue that $a doesn't really provide any advantages over $b (although it has been clearly demonstrated that it does). But you are not providing any advantage of $b over $a either.

Let's turn the tables around; do **you** have any evidence that "impact" is superior to "affect" in **any** instance?

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Felipe Contreras
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  1. doc: replace jargon word "impact" with "effect"/"affect"Varun Varada, Apr 5, 2021
  2. Michal SuchánekApr 6, 2021
  3. Varun VaradaApr 6, 2021
  4. Jeff KingApr 6, 2021
  5. Varun VaradaApr 7, 2021
  6. Varun VaradaApr 28, 2021
  7. Michal SuchánekApr 28, 2021
  8. Varun VaradaApr 28, 2021
  9. Michal SuchánekApr 28, 2021
  10. Varun VaradaApr 30, 2021
  11. Michal SuchánekApr 30, 2021
  12. Varun VaradaMay 10, 2021
  13. Michal SuchánekMay 10, 2021
  14. Varun VaradaMay 10, 2021
  15. Michal SuchánekMay 11, 2021
  16. Junio C HamanoMay 11, 2021
  17. Felipe ContrerasMay 12, 2021
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  25. Varun VaradaMay 11, 2021
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  28. Felipe ContrerasMay 12, 2021
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  30. Felipe ContrerasMay 12, 2021
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  34. Michal SuchánekMay 12, 2021
  35. Robert P. J. DayMay 12, 2021
  36. Kerry, RichardMay 12, 2021
  37. Varun VaradaMay 12, 2021
  38. Michal SuchánekMay 12, 2021
  39. Felipe ContrerasMay 12, 2021
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  42. Michal SuchánekMay 13, 2021
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  44. Robert CoupMay 13, 2021
  45. Michal SuchánekMay 13, 2021
  46. Felipe ContrerasMay 13, 2021
  47. Varun VaradaMay 26, 2021
  48. Michal SuchánekMay 27, 2021
  49. Felipe ContrerasMay 27, 2021
  50. Michal SuchánekMay 27, 2021
  51. Felipe ContrerasMay 27, 2021
  52. Varun VaradaJun 12, 2021
  53. Michal SuchánekJun 13, 2021
  54. Felipe ContrerasJun 13, 2021
  55. Michal SuchánekJun 13, 2021
  56. Felipe ContrerasJun 13, 2021
  57. Varun VaradaMay 12, 2021
  58. Felipe ContrerasMay 13, 2021
  59. Felipe ContrerasMay 12, 2021
  60. Felipe ContrerasMay 11, 2021
  61. Michal SuchánekMay 11, 2021
  62. Felipe ContrerasMay 12, 2021
  63. Michal SuchánekMay 12, 2021
  64. Felipe ContrerasMay 12, 2021
  65. Varun VaradaMay 12, 2021
  66. Philip OakleyMay 13, 2021
  67. Varun VaradaMay 26, 2021
  68. Philip OakleyMay 27, 2021

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