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Re: [PATCH] Proof-of-concept patch to remember what the detached HEAD was

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Björn Steinbrink <b.steinbrink@gmx.de>
Date
Oct 17, 2009, 08:19 UTC
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On 2009.10.17 00:43:31 -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> Christoph Bartoschek <bartoschek@gmx.de> writes:
> > Daniel Barkalow wrote:
> >
> >> The upshot of the messages should be:
> >> 
> >>  $ git checkout origin/master
> >>  Since you can't actually change "origin/master" yourself, you'll just
> >>  be sightseeing unless you create a local branch to hold new local work.
> >> 
> >>  $ git branch
> >>  * (not a local branch, but "origin/master")
> >> 
> >>  $ git commit
> >>  You've been sightseeing "origin/master". The commit can't change that
> >>  value, so your commit isn't held in any branch. If you want to create
> >>  a branch to hold it, here's how.
[...]
> The second item in the Daniel's transcript above may be an improvement but
> I think it is a wrong economy to record and show 'but "origin/master"'
> (which cannot be correct forever and has to be invalidated once the user
> starts committing or resetting) in the message.

I don't think it's entirely wrong to record that information, git just has to know when to invalidate it, possibly requiring the user to really detach HEAD.

git checkout origin/master git checkout origin/master~3 git checkout HEAD^2~5 git reset --hard HEAD~2

Those commands are all about walking the ancestry of origin/master in some way. So it seems reasonable to assume that HEAD is still weakly bound to origin/master. And based upon that, there could be something like "git update", and things like "git status" could show that you're browsing through the ancestry of origin/master, and that "git commit" message could maybe say "You've been sightseeing 'origin/master' [currently at 'origin/master~3^2~7'] ...".

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> I am wondering if a similar effect to help new users can be had by
> rewording the message to:
> 
>     $ git branch
>     * (not a local branch; see "git reflog" to learn how you got here)
> 
> The user can see how he got there even after doing something else after
> the checkout (see Nico's write-up in $gmane/130527).  The difference is
> between giving fish and teaching how to catch one himself.

That could be used when the user actively detached HEAD, invalidating the "weak binding". Maybe implicitly by "git commit" or "git reset <something_we_can't_keep_track_of>", or maybe explicitly, if committing on a "semi-detached HEAD" becomes forbidden.

Or maybe it could always be shown, in addition to "You are here", you also get told "Do this to find out how you got there". Does seem like a good idea.

Björn
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  1. Proof-of-concept patch to remember what the detached HEAD wasDaniel Barkalow, Oct 14, 2009
  2. Junio C HamanoOct 14, 2009
  3. Jeff KingOct 14, 2009
  4. Johannes SchindelinOct 14, 2009
  5. Jeff KingOct 14, 2009
  6. Junio C HamanoOct 14, 2009
  7. Jeff KingOct 14, 2009
  8. Daniel BarkalowOct 14, 2009
  9. Jay SoffianOct 14, 2009
  10. Daniel BarkalowOct 14, 2009
  11. Nicolas PitreOct 14, 2009
  12. Daniel BarkalowOct 14, 2009
  13. Junio C HamanoOct 14, 2009
  14. Nicolas PitreOct 14, 2009
  15. Junio C HamanoOct 14, 2009
  16. Jeff KingOct 14, 2009
  17. Nicolas PitreOct 14, 2009
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  19. Jeff KingOct 15, 2009
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  22. Johannes SchindelinOct 16, 2009
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  25. Nicolas PitreOct 16, 2009
  26. Junio C HamanoOct 16, 2009
  27. Sean EstabrooksOct 17, 2009
  28. Johannes SchindelinOct 26, 2009
  29. Nanako ShiraishiOct 27, 2009
  30. Making Git easy to use -- without RTFM, was Re: [PATCH] Proof-of-concept patch to remember what the detached HEAD wasJohannes Schindelin, Oct 27, 2009
  31. Avery PennarunOct 27, 2009
  32. Johannes SchindelinOct 16, 2009
  33. Junio C HamanoOct 16, 2009
  34. James PickensOct 15, 2009
  35. Jakub NarebskiOct 15, 2009
  36. Björn SteinbrinkOct 15, 2009
  37. Nicolas PitreOct 15, 2009
  38. Daniel BarkalowOct 15, 2009
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  40. Nicolas PitreOct 15, 2009
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  42. Thomas RastOct 15, 2009
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  45. Jeff KingOct 15, 2009
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  47. Junio C HamanoOct 15, 2009
  48. Nicolas PitreOct 15, 2009
  49. James PickensOct 15, 2009
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  51. Johannes SchindelinOct 16, 2009
  52. Björn SteinbrinkOct 16, 2009
  53. Jeff KingOct 15, 2009
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  55. Björn SteinbrinkOct 16, 2009
  56. Daniel BarkalowOct 16, 2009
  57. Björn SteinbrinkOct 16, 2009
  58. Nicolas PitreOct 16, 2009
  59. Daniel BarkalowOct 15, 2009
  60. Junio C HamanoOct 15, 2009
  61. Daniel BarkalowOct 15, 2009
  62. Nicolas PitreOct 15, 2009
  63. Julian PhillipsOct 16, 2009
  64. Björn SteinbrinkOct 16, 2009
  65. Julian PhillipsOct 16, 2009
  66. Daniel BarkalowOct 16, 2009
  67. Junio C HamanoOct 16, 2009
  68. Julian PhillipsOct 16, 2009
  69. Nicolas PitreOct 16, 2009
  70. Julian PhillipsOct 17, 2009
  71. Björn SteinbrinkOct 17, 2009
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  73. Björn SteinbrinkOct 17, 2009
  74. Julian PhillipsOct 17, 2009
  75. Junio C HamanoOct 16, 2009
  76. Julian PhillipsOct 17, 2009
  77. Junio C HamanoOct 17, 2009
  78. Julian PhillipsOct 17, 2009
  79. Björn SteinbrinkOct 17, 2009
  80. Junio C HamanoOct 17, 2009
  81. Björn SteinbrinkOct 17, 2009
  82. Junio C HamanoOct 17, 2009
  83. James PickensOct 17, 2009
  84. Björn SteinbrinkOct 17, 2009
  85. Junio C HamanoOct 18, 2009
  86. Björn SteinbrinkOct 19, 2009
  87. Julian PhillipsOct 17, 2009
  88. Eric RaibleOct 14, 2009
  89. Christoph BartoschekOct 16, 2009
  90. Junio C HamanoOct 17, 2009
  91. Björn SteinbrinkOct 17, 2009
  92. Junio C HamanoOct 17, 2009
  93. Daniel BarkalowOct 17, 2009

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