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Re: [PATCH 00/11] Start retiring .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/ for good

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
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May 17, 2017, 00:51 UTC
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Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
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> It seems pretty haphazard to me, is it even documented somewhere?
>
> I'm talking about an establish process backed up by code, where for
> example I can add an experimental feature in v2.14.0, it'll be subject
> to change & warn unless you configure core.use_experimental=true or
> whatever until v2.16.0, then it'll be considered stable, and changing
> the semantics of any stable feature will require opt-in configuration
> that'll only become default after N more release cycles where N is
> some well-defined number.
>
> Git's deprecation cycles, such as they are, seem to be better
> described as: it'll be noted in the release notes or docs, then left
> for some indeterminate amount of time until we have the argument on a
> case-by-case basis of if/when/how to deal with that specific case.

I do not think we have any "Statutory law" about how to make a backward-incompatible change in Documentation/; I do not terribly mind if we see some write-up on the topic there.

Having said that, after getting burned by "git-foo no longer is on your $PATH" change in 1.6 era [*1*], I think we have been pretty good at following the same pattern to ease the pain to the users during transition each time we had to introduce a change that forces existing users to adjust to the new world order. Recall how any of the following (not exhaustive samples) were done: introducing and making the default value of push.default from "matching" to "simple"; removal of "git tar-tree"; "git add -u" working on the whole tree even when run from a subdirectory. We start by issuing warning message when a deprecated feature is used or a feature that will change its default is used, wait for a few releases (depending on how entrenched its use is), and then finally flip the switch and remove the message.

You are right to point out that we tend to refrain from setting the timetable from the beginning of the deprecation dance, and it might be a good idea to set the exact cut-off date upfront. I have no strong opinion.

[References]
*1* https://public-inbox.org/git/?q=gmane:93813
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Message 54 of 62 in “Start retiring .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/ for good”
  1. 00/11 Start retiring .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/ for goodJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  2. 05/11 Revert "Revert "Don't create the $GIT_DIR/branches directory on init""Johannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  3. Stefan BellerMay 11, 2017
  4. 04/11 remote: warn loud and clear when .git/remotes/ is *still* usedJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  5. 01/11 git-parse-remote: fix highly misleading man pageJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  6. Stefan BellerMay 11, 2017
  7. Johannes SchindelinMay 11, 2017
  8. 0/5 Remove now-unused git-parse-remoteÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  9. Jeff KingNov 11, 2020
  10. Junio C HamanoNov 11, 2020
  11. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 12, 2020
  12. Jeff KingNov 12, 2020
  13. How do I "git fetch" with a custom <refspec> but a default remote?Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 12, 2020
  14. Jeff KingNov 12, 2020
  15. Chris TorekNov 12, 2020
  16. Jeff KingNov 12, 2020
  17. Junio C HamanoNov 12, 2020
  18. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 14, 2020
  19. 1/5 parse-remote: remove unused GIT_DIR variableÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  20. 2/5 parse-remote: remove long-dead rebase codeÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  21. 4/5 parse-remote: move used code to git-submodule.shÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  22. 5/5 parse-remote: remove this now-unused libraryÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  23. Junio C HamanoNov 11, 2020
  24. 0/2 Retire git-parse-remoteJunio C Hamano, Nov 12, 2020
  25. 1/2 parse-remote: move used code to git-submodule.shJunio C Hamano, Nov 12, 2020
  26. 2/2 parse-remote: remove this now-unused libraryJunio C Hamano, Nov 12, 2020
  27. Jeff KingNov 12, 2020
  28. Junio C HamanoNov 12, 2020
  29. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 13, 2020
  30. 0/3 submodule sh->C & retire parse-remoteÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 14, 2020
  31. 1/3 submodule: use "fetch" logic instead of custom remote discoveryÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 14, 2020
  32. Junio C HamanoNov 16, 2020
  33. 3/3 parse-remote: remove this now-unused libraryÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 14, 2020
  34. Junio C HamanoNov 16, 2020
  35. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 17, 2020
  36. 2/3 submodule: remove sh function in favor of helperÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 14, 2020
  37. 3/5 parse-remote: remove long-dead git-pull.sh codeÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  38. 03/11 remote: warn loud and clear when .git/branches/ is *still* usedJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  39. 09/11 PREVIEW: t5515: remove .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/ testsJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  40. 02/11 Documentation: really deprecate .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/Johannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  41. 10/11 PREVIEW: t0060: stop testing support for .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/Johannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  42. 11/11 PREVIEW: remove support for .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/Johannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  43. Stefan BellerMay 11, 2017
  44. Johannes SchindelinMay 11, 2017
  45. 06/11 PREVIEW: t5510: convert .git/remotes/ test to use a regular remoteJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  46. 07/11 PREVIEW: t5516: stop testing .git/branches/ functionalityJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  47. 08/11 PREVIEW: remote: remove support for migrating ancient remotesJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  48. Junio C HamanoMay 12, 2017
  49. Johannes SchindelinMay 12, 2017
  50. Junio C HamanoMay 16, 2017
  51. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 16, 2017
  52. Junio C HamanoMay 16, 2017
  53. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 16, 2017
  54. Junio C HamanoMay 17, 2017
  55. Junio C HamanoMay 12, 2017
  56. Johannes SchindelinMay 12, 2017
  57. Jonathan NiederMay 12, 2017
  58. Junio C HamanoMay 13, 2017
  59. Junio C HamanoMay 12, 2017
  60. Johannes SchindelinMay 15, 2017
  61. Jeff KingMay 12, 2017
  62. Johannes SchindelinMay 12, 2017

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