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Re: [PATCH 00/11] Start retiring .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/ for good

From
Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Date
May 12, 2017, 14:19 UTC
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Hi Junio,
On Fri, 12 May 2017, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
> 
> > Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de> writes:
> >
> >> Git uses the config for remote/upstream information in favor of the
> >> previously-used .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/ for a decade now.
> >
> > The last time I thought about trying this several years ago, I found
> > that people who need to grab things from many places still do use
> > .git/branches/ and their use case is hard to migrate to .git/config,
> > primarily because the former is "one per file" and it is easy to
> > add/remove/tweak without affecting others.  Ask akpm@ if he still
> > prefers to use .git/branches/ for example.
> 
> FWIW, I do not think there is any reason for people to be using
> .git/remotes/, but for .git/branches/, I do not think I can offer a
> more efficient and easier to use alternative based on .git/config to
> do these things:
> 
>  $ grep <substring> .git/branches/* ;# what did I call that remote?
>  $ cat .git/branches/$name ;# where do I get that from?
>  $ echo "$URL#$branch" >.git/branches/$name ;# I just learned a new src
>  $ rm .git/branch/$name ;# I no longer need it
> 
> without having to learn things experienced CLI/UNIX person already
> knows.

I do not understand what you want to tell me with that example. It is confusing me utterly.

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> We simply cannot beat the above with anything like 
> 
>     $ git config remote.$name.fetch refs/heads/$branch
> 
> even though the config based remote definition may be infinitely
> more powerful.
Then maybe we need to teach, say, `git remote` to be that powerful?
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> > Is it really hurting us having to support these old information
> > sources we treat as read-only?
> 
> And this one is also important.  I do not think we had to touch any
> code that handles .git/remotes/ or .git/branches when we extended
> the .git/config based configuration for remotes, simply because the
> old data source are pretty much frozen read-only places these days.

Okay. But by the same reasoning, I want to hear nothing from you anymore about the sort of maintenance burden you talked about in the ssh_variant patches. That burden was ridiculously small compared to what you tell me you want to keep (and for a single user that may have moved on). Not one word.

Ciao, Dscho

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Message 56 of 62 in “Start retiring .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/ for good”
  1. 00/11 Start retiring .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/ for goodJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  2. 05/11 Revert "Revert "Don't create the $GIT_DIR/branches directory on init""Johannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  3. Stefan BellerMay 11, 2017
  4. 04/11 remote: warn loud and clear when .git/remotes/ is *still* usedJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  5. 01/11 git-parse-remote: fix highly misleading man pageJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  6. Stefan BellerMay 11, 2017
  7. Johannes SchindelinMay 11, 2017
  8. 0/5 Remove now-unused git-parse-remoteÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  9. Jeff KingNov 11, 2020
  10. Junio C HamanoNov 11, 2020
  11. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 12, 2020
  12. Jeff KingNov 12, 2020
  13. How do I "git fetch" with a custom <refspec> but a default remote?Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 12, 2020
  14. Jeff KingNov 12, 2020
  15. Chris TorekNov 12, 2020
  16. Jeff KingNov 12, 2020
  17. Junio C HamanoNov 12, 2020
  18. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 14, 2020
  19. 1/5 parse-remote: remove unused GIT_DIR variableÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  20. 2/5 parse-remote: remove long-dead rebase codeÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  21. 4/5 parse-remote: move used code to git-submodule.shÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  22. 5/5 parse-remote: remove this now-unused libraryÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  23. Junio C HamanoNov 11, 2020
  24. 0/2 Retire git-parse-remoteJunio C Hamano, Nov 12, 2020
  25. 1/2 parse-remote: move used code to git-submodule.shJunio C Hamano, Nov 12, 2020
  26. 2/2 parse-remote: remove this now-unused libraryJunio C Hamano, Nov 12, 2020
  27. Jeff KingNov 12, 2020
  28. Junio C HamanoNov 12, 2020
  29. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 13, 2020
  30. 0/3 submodule sh->C & retire parse-remoteÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 14, 2020
  31. 1/3 submodule: use "fetch" logic instead of custom remote discoveryÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 14, 2020
  32. Junio C HamanoNov 16, 2020
  33. 3/3 parse-remote: remove this now-unused libraryÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 14, 2020
  34. Junio C HamanoNov 16, 2020
  35. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 17, 2020
  36. 2/3 submodule: remove sh function in favor of helperÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 14, 2020
  37. 3/5 parse-remote: remove long-dead git-pull.sh codeÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  38. 03/11 remote: warn loud and clear when .git/branches/ is *still* usedJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  39. 09/11 PREVIEW: t5515: remove .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/ testsJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  40. 02/11 Documentation: really deprecate .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/Johannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  41. 10/11 PREVIEW: t0060: stop testing support for .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/Johannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  42. 11/11 PREVIEW: remove support for .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/Johannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  43. Stefan BellerMay 11, 2017
  44. Johannes SchindelinMay 11, 2017
  45. 06/11 PREVIEW: t5510: convert .git/remotes/ test to use a regular remoteJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  46. 07/11 PREVIEW: t5516: stop testing .git/branches/ functionalityJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  47. 08/11 PREVIEW: remote: remove support for migrating ancient remotesJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  48. Junio C HamanoMay 12, 2017
  49. Johannes SchindelinMay 12, 2017
  50. Junio C HamanoMay 16, 2017
  51. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 16, 2017
  52. Junio C HamanoMay 16, 2017
  53. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 16, 2017
  54. Junio C HamanoMay 17, 2017
  55. Junio C HamanoMay 12, 2017
  56. Johannes SchindelinMay 12, 2017
  57. Jonathan NiederMay 12, 2017
  58. Junio C HamanoMay 13, 2017
  59. Junio C HamanoMay 12, 2017
  60. Johannes SchindelinMay 15, 2017
  61. Jeff KingMay 12, 2017
  62. Johannes SchindelinMay 12, 2017

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