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Re: [PATCH 00/11] Start retiring .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/ for good

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
May 12, 2017, 21:11 UTC
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Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:
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> On Fri, 12 May 2017, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>>  ...
>> FWIW, I do not think there is any reason for people to be using
>> .git/remotes/, but for .git/branches/, I do not think I can offer a
>> more efficient and easier to use alternative based on .git/config to
>> do these things:
>> 
>>  $ grep <substring> .git/branches/* ;# what did I call that remote?
>>  $ cat .git/branches/$name ;# where do I get that from?
>>  $ echo "$URL#$branch" >.git/branches/$name ;# I just learned a new src
>>  $ rm .git/branch/$name ;# I no longer need it
>> 
>> without having to learn things experienced CLI/UNIX person already
>> knows.
>
> I do not understand what you want to tell me with that example. It is
> confusing me utterly.

They show how it helps a user, whose primary use of Git is to fetch from many places, to keep the the old "branches" machinery. It is not "hard" to migrate in the sense that there is a way to (1) find the short-name you gave to a remote from a part of URL etc., (2) find the exact attributes of the repository a short-name refers to, (3) update an existing or add a new short-name and (4) remove an existing one. The remotes.*.{url,fetch} configuration are expressive enough to represent these operations. It however is more work and I couldn't think of alternatives.

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>
>> We simply cannot beat the above with anything like 
>> 
>>     $ git config remote.$name.fetch refs/heads/$branch
>> 
>> even though the config based remote definition may be infinitely
>> more powerful.
>
> Then maybe we need to teach, say, `git remote` to be that powerful?
Ah, after all, you weren't confused utterly.  

Not necessarily "that powerful", but yes, if we had something that is quick and easy to use as a replacement, I do agree we can plan .git/{branches,remotes}'s removal. The point of "branches" thing to existing users, I think, is not its expressive power (it is much much simpler and can do only one thing) but its simplicity.

Thanks.
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Message 59 of 62 in “Start retiring .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/ for good”
  1. 00/11 Start retiring .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/ for goodJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  2. 05/11 Revert "Revert "Don't create the $GIT_DIR/branches directory on init""Johannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  3. Stefan BellerMay 11, 2017
  4. 04/11 remote: warn loud and clear when .git/remotes/ is *still* usedJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  5. 01/11 git-parse-remote: fix highly misleading man pageJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  6. Stefan BellerMay 11, 2017
  7. Johannes SchindelinMay 11, 2017
  8. 0/5 Remove now-unused git-parse-remoteÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  9. Jeff KingNov 11, 2020
  10. Junio C HamanoNov 11, 2020
  11. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 12, 2020
  12. Jeff KingNov 12, 2020
  13. How do I "git fetch" with a custom <refspec> but a default remote?Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 12, 2020
  14. Jeff KingNov 12, 2020
  15. Chris TorekNov 12, 2020
  16. Jeff KingNov 12, 2020
  17. Junio C HamanoNov 12, 2020
  18. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 14, 2020
  19. 1/5 parse-remote: remove unused GIT_DIR variableÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  20. 2/5 parse-remote: remove long-dead rebase codeÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  21. 4/5 parse-remote: move used code to git-submodule.shÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  22. 5/5 parse-remote: remove this now-unused libraryÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  23. Junio C HamanoNov 11, 2020
  24. 0/2 Retire git-parse-remoteJunio C Hamano, Nov 12, 2020
  25. 1/2 parse-remote: move used code to git-submodule.shJunio C Hamano, Nov 12, 2020
  26. 2/2 parse-remote: remove this now-unused libraryJunio C Hamano, Nov 12, 2020
  27. Jeff KingNov 12, 2020
  28. Junio C HamanoNov 12, 2020
  29. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 13, 2020
  30. 0/3 submodule sh->C & retire parse-remoteÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 14, 2020
  31. 1/3 submodule: use "fetch" logic instead of custom remote discoveryÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 14, 2020
  32. Junio C HamanoNov 16, 2020
  33. 3/3 parse-remote: remove this now-unused libraryÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 14, 2020
  34. Junio C HamanoNov 16, 2020
  35. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 17, 2020
  36. 2/3 submodule: remove sh function in favor of helperÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 14, 2020
  37. 3/5 parse-remote: remove long-dead git-pull.sh codeÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 11, 2020
  38. 03/11 remote: warn loud and clear when .git/branches/ is *still* usedJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  39. 09/11 PREVIEW: t5515: remove .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/ testsJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  40. 02/11 Documentation: really deprecate .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/Johannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  41. 10/11 PREVIEW: t0060: stop testing support for .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/Johannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  42. 11/11 PREVIEW: remove support for .git/remotes/ and .git/branches/Johannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  43. Stefan BellerMay 11, 2017
  44. Johannes SchindelinMay 11, 2017
  45. 06/11 PREVIEW: t5510: convert .git/remotes/ test to use a regular remoteJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  46. 07/11 PREVIEW: t5516: stop testing .git/branches/ functionalityJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  47. 08/11 PREVIEW: remote: remove support for migrating ancient remotesJohannes Schindelin, May 11, 2017
  48. Junio C HamanoMay 12, 2017
  49. Johannes SchindelinMay 12, 2017
  50. Junio C HamanoMay 16, 2017
  51. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 16, 2017
  52. Junio C HamanoMay 16, 2017
  53. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 16, 2017
  54. Junio C HamanoMay 17, 2017
  55. Junio C HamanoMay 12, 2017
  56. Johannes SchindelinMay 12, 2017
  57. Jonathan NiederMay 12, 2017
  58. Junio C HamanoMay 13, 2017
  59. Junio C HamanoMay 12, 2017
  60. Johannes SchindelinMay 15, 2017
  61. Jeff KingMay 12, 2017
  62. Johannes SchindelinMay 12, 2017

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