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Re: Changing the default for "core.abbrev"?

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Sep 26, 2016, 03:46 UTC
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Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:
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> I can just keep reminding kernel maintainers and developers to update
> their git config, but maybe it would be a good idea to just admit that
> the defaults picked in 2005 weren't necessarily the best ones
> possible, and those could be bumped up a bit?
>
> I think I mentioned this some time ago, and it's not a huge deal, but
> I thought I'd just mention it again because it came up again today for
> me..

I am not quite sure how good any new default would be, though. Just like any timeout is not long enough for somebody, growing projects will eventually hit whatever abbreviation length they start with.

Even if we bump it to 12 for everybody, majority of projects at GitHub would probably be just wasting 5 more hexdigits in addition to whatever they are already wasting. The kernel folks will keep having the problem of having harder time looking up objects referred to by ancient commits no matter what the new default is anyway, and then they will again regret we didn't bump it to 16 in year 2016 in several decades; by that time both of us are probably retired so it may no longer be our problems, though ;-)

I am not opposed to bump the default to 12 or whatever, but I suspect any lengthening today may need to be accompanied by a tool support that finds the set of objects that are reachable from a commit whose names begin with non-unique abbreviations that appear in the commit log message. Assuming that it is very hard to refer to future objects in the log message you write today, such a tool may find a single object that used to be the unique instance of that abbreviation back then, and with reachability bitmap support, it may not be too expensive to run.

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  1. Linus TorvaldsSep 26, 2016
  2. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  3. Jeff KingSep 26, 2016
  4. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  5. 0/10 helping people resolve ambiguous sha1sJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  6. 01/10 get_sha1: detect buggy calls with multiple disambiguatorsJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  7. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  8. Jeff KingSep 26, 2016
  9. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  10. 02/10 get_sha1: avoid repeating ourselves via ONLY_TO_DIEJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  11. 03/10 get_sha1: propagate flags to child functionsJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  12. 04/10 get_short_sha1: peel tags when looking for treeishJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  13. Jeff KingSep 26, 2016
  14. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  15. Jeff KingSep 26, 2016
  16. 05/10 get_short_sha1: refactor init of disambiguation codeJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  17. 06/10 get_short_sha1: NUL-terminate hex prefixJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  18. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  19. Jeff KingSep 26, 2016
  20. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  21. 07/10 get_short_sha1: mark ambiguity error for translationJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  22. 08/10 sha1_array: let callbacks interrupt iterationJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  23. 09/10 for_each_abbrev: drop duplicate objectsJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  24. 10/10 get_short_sha1: list ambiguous objects on errorJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  25. Linus TorvaldsSep 26, 2016
  26. Jacob KellerSep 27, 2016
  27. Jeff KingSep 27, 2016
  28. Kyle J. McKaySep 29, 2016
  29. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  30. Kyle J. McKaySep 29, 2016
  31. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  32. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  33. Jeff KingSep 26, 2016
  34. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  35. Kyle J. McKaySep 29, 2016
  36. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  37. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  38. Jacob KellerSep 30, 2016
  39. core.abbrev doc: document and test the abbreviation lengthÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 4, 2019
  40. Junio C HamanoFeb 4, 2019
  41. Junio C HamanoFeb 4, 2019
  42. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 4, 2019
  43. Jeff KingFeb 4, 2019
  44. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 4, 2019
  45. Jeff KingFeb 6, 2019
  46. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 6, 2019
  47. Matthieu MoySep 26, 2016
  48. Jeff KingSep 26, 2016
  49. Kyle J. McKaySep 29, 2016
  50. Christian CouderSep 26, 2016
  51. 0/4 raising core.abbrev default to 12 hexdigitsJunio C Hamano, Sep 28, 2016
  52. 3/4 worktree: honor configuration variablesJunio C Hamano, Sep 28, 2016
  53. 4/4 core.abbrev: raise the default abbreviation to 12 hexdigitsJunio C Hamano, Sep 28, 2016
  54. SZEDER GáborSep 29, 2016
  55. Lukas FleischerSep 29, 2016
  56. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  57. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  58. Matthieu MoySep 29, 2016
  59. SZEDER GáborSep 29, 2016
  60. Johannes SixtSep 29, 2016
  61. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  62. Linus TorvaldsSep 29, 2016
  63. Linus TorvaldsSep 29, 2016
  64. Linus TorvaldsSep 29, 2016
  65. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  66. Mike HommeySep 30, 2016
  67. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  68. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 30, 2016
  69. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  70. Linus TorvaldsSep 29, 2016
  71. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  72. Linus TorvaldsSep 29, 2016
  73. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  74. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  75. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
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  77. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  78. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  79. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  80. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  81. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  82. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  83. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  84. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  85. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  86. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  87. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  88. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  89. Jeff KingSep 30, 2016
  90. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  91. Jeff KingSep 30, 2016
  92. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  93. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  94. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  95. Jeff KingSep 30, 2016
  96. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  97. 2/4 t13xx: do not assume system config is emptyJunio C Hamano, Sep 28, 2016
  98. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  99. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  100. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  101. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  102. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  103. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  104. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  105. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  106. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  107. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  108. 1/4 config: allow customizing /etc/gitconfig locationJunio C Hamano, Sep 28, 2016
  109. Jakub NarębskiSep 29, 2016
  110. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  111. Matthieu MoySep 29, 2016

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