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Re: [PATCH 4/4] core.abbrev: raise the default abbreviation to 12 hexdigits

From
Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Sep 29, 2016, 09:15 UTC
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<20160929091509.2n4mdrevwxechqol@sigill.intra.peff.net>
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<20160929024400.22605-1-szeder@ira.uka.de>
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 04:44:00AM +0200, SZEDER Gábor wrote:
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> >     So 12 seems reasonable, and the only downside for it (or for "13", for
> >     that matter) is a few extra bytes. I dunno, maybe people will really
> >     hate that, but I have a feeling these are mostly cut-and-pasted anyway.
> 
> I for one raise my hand in protest...
> 
> "few extra bytes" is not the only downside, and it's not at all about
> how many characters are copy-and-pasted.  In my opinion it's much more
> important that this change wastes 5 columns worth of valuable screen
> real estate e.g. for 'git blame' or 'git log --oneline' in projects
> that don't need it and certainly won't ever need it.

True. The core of the issue is that we really only care about this minimum length when _storing_ an abbreviation, but we don't know when the user is just looking at it in the moment, and when they are going to stick it in a commit message, email, or bug tracker.

In an ideal world, anybody who was about to store it would run "git describe" or something to come up with some canonical reference format. And we could just bump the default minimum there. Personally, I almost exclusively cite commits as the output of:

  git log -1 --pretty='tformat:%h (%s, %ad)' --date=short

and I'd be fine to stick "--abbrev=12" in there for future-proofing. But I don't know what the kernel or other projects do.

I'd also be curious to know if the patch I sent in [1] to more aggressively prefer commits would make this less of an issue, and people wouldn't care as much about using longer hashes in the first place. So one option is to merge that (and possibly even make it the default) and see if people still care in 6 months.

-Peff
[1] http://public-inbox.org/git/20160927123801.3bpdg3hap3kzzfmv@sigill.intra.peff.net/
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  2. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  3. Jeff KingSep 26, 2016
  4. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  5. 0/10 helping people resolve ambiguous sha1sJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  6. 01/10 get_sha1: detect buggy calls with multiple disambiguatorsJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  7. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  8. Jeff KingSep 26, 2016
  9. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  10. 02/10 get_sha1: avoid repeating ourselves via ONLY_TO_DIEJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  11. 03/10 get_sha1: propagate flags to child functionsJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  12. 04/10 get_short_sha1: peel tags when looking for treeishJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  13. Jeff KingSep 26, 2016
  14. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  15. Jeff KingSep 26, 2016
  16. 05/10 get_short_sha1: refactor init of disambiguation codeJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  17. 06/10 get_short_sha1: NUL-terminate hex prefixJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  18. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  19. Jeff KingSep 26, 2016
  20. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  21. 07/10 get_short_sha1: mark ambiguity error for translationJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  22. 08/10 sha1_array: let callbacks interrupt iterationJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  23. 09/10 for_each_abbrev: drop duplicate objectsJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  24. 10/10 get_short_sha1: list ambiguous objects on errorJeff King, Sep 26, 2016
  25. Linus TorvaldsSep 26, 2016
  26. Jacob KellerSep 27, 2016
  27. Jeff KingSep 27, 2016
  28. Kyle J. McKaySep 29, 2016
  29. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  30. Kyle J. McKaySep 29, 2016
  31. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  32. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  33. Jeff KingSep 26, 2016
  34. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2016
  35. Kyle J. McKaySep 29, 2016
  36. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  37. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  38. Jacob KellerSep 30, 2016
  39. core.abbrev doc: document and test the abbreviation lengthÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 4, 2019
  40. Junio C HamanoFeb 4, 2019
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  42. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 4, 2019
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  45. Jeff KingFeb 6, 2019
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  47. Matthieu MoySep 26, 2016
  48. Jeff KingSep 26, 2016
  49. Kyle J. McKaySep 29, 2016
  50. Christian CouderSep 26, 2016
  51. 0/4 raising core.abbrev default to 12 hexdigitsJunio C Hamano, Sep 28, 2016
  52. 3/4 worktree: honor configuration variablesJunio C Hamano, Sep 28, 2016
  53. 4/4 core.abbrev: raise the default abbreviation to 12 hexdigitsJunio C Hamano, Sep 28, 2016
  54. SZEDER GáborSep 29, 2016
  55. Lukas FleischerSep 29, 2016
  56. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  57. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  58. Matthieu MoySep 29, 2016
  59. SZEDER GáborSep 29, 2016
  60. Johannes SixtSep 29, 2016
  61. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  62. Linus TorvaldsSep 29, 2016
  63. Linus TorvaldsSep 29, 2016
  64. Linus TorvaldsSep 29, 2016
  65. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  66. Mike HommeySep 30, 2016
  67. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  68. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonSep 30, 2016
  69. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
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  71. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
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  75. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
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  78. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  79. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  80. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  81. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  82. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  83. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  84. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  85. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  86. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  87. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  88. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  89. Jeff KingSep 30, 2016
  90. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  91. Jeff KingSep 30, 2016
  92. Linus TorvaldsSep 30, 2016
  93. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  94. Junio C HamanoSep 30, 2016
  95. Jeff KingSep 30, 2016
  96. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  97. 2/4 t13xx: do not assume system config is emptyJunio C Hamano, Sep 28, 2016
  98. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  99. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  100. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  101. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  102. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  103. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  104. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  105. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  106. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  107. Jeff KingSep 29, 2016
  108. 1/4 config: allow customizing /etc/gitconfig locationJunio C Hamano, Sep 28, 2016
  109. Jakub NarębskiSep 29, 2016
  110. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2016
  111. Matthieu MoySep 29, 2016

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