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Re: [PATCH] i18n: disable i18n for shell scripts if NO_GETTEXT defined

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Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com>
Date
Jan 20, 2012, 09:50 UTC
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On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 19:30, Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
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> Johannes Sixt <j.sixt@viscovery.net> writes:
>
>> ... We have, e.g., NO_MMAP, and I can set it to request
>> that some alternative is used, even if I have a working mmap(). The option
>> name "NO_GETTEXT" is in exactly the same spirit.
>>
>>> In the current approach we take for shell scripts, we cannot have "No i18n
>>> whatsoever and messages are emit with printf and echo". We always have to
>>> go through gettext/eval_gettext even though they may be an implementation
>>> that does not do i18n at all.
>>
>> Just like we go through _() in C code, even though there may be an
>> implementation that does not do i18n at all, right?
>
> Yes, just like that. The small detail that _() can be #define'd out to
> empty while gettext/eval_gettext cannot be made to be no-impact like that
> does not really matter.
>
>> In C, it is easy, in shell code it may be more involved.
>
> Correct.
To elaborate, the C code can:
 * Use the system gettext library to get translations.
 * Use the system gettext library, but effectively be pass-through
   because the user has the C locale.
 * Use our fallback functions which in any modern compiler will be
   optimized out.
However with the shell code we can:
 1. Be using the system gettext & eval_gettext to get translations.
 2. Be using the system gettext & eval_gettext as pass-through, either
    because we don't have translations since we've installed with
    NO_GETTEXT=YesPlease, or because we're in the C locale.
 3. Haven't detected that gettext.sh etc. exists, so we have to provide
    our own fallbacks.

The proposed patch would move all users of NO_GETTEXT=YesPlease to #3, even though on most platforms we don't need to define our own dummy fallbacks since the system already provides them.

I don't particularly like it because I'd rather use the OS vendor's implementation if possible, even for fallback.

However it being broken is also unacceptable, but I think the way forward is to detect the breakage either at compile time or at runtime, to that end Alex could you provide us with the output from the following commands on the offending system where this is broken:

    $ type gettext.sh
    $ gettext.sh --version
    $ gettext -h
    $ gettext "some test text"
    $ . gettext.sh
    eval_gettext
    $ variable=value eval_gettext "some \$variable"
Then how the eval_gettext function is defined:
    $ type eval_gettext
    eval_gettext is a function
    eval_gettext ()
    {
        gettext "$1" | ( export PATH `envsubst --variables "$1"`;
        envsubst "$1" )
    }

And then a --version for whatever programs that function uses, e.g. here:

    $ envsubst --version

Once we know how it breaks we can e.g. add configure tests for checking whether we can use the system's gettext library for the fallbacks.

Could you also run the git test suite as described in t/README? I'd expect a lot of the i18n tests to fail, but it would be curious to see which ones exactly.

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Message 14 of 40 in “i18n: disable i18n for shell scripts if NO_GETTEXT defined”
  1. i18n: disable i18n for shell scripts if NO_GETTEXT definedAlex Riesen, Jan 17, 2012
  2. Junio C HamanoJan 17, 2012
  3. Alex RiesenJan 18, 2012
  4. i18n: disable i18n for shell scripts if NO_GETTEXT definedAlex Riesen, Jan 18, 2012
  5. Jonathan NiederJan 19, 2012
  6. Alex RiesenJan 19, 2012
  7. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJan 18, 2012
  8. Alex RiesenJan 18, 2012
  9. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJan 18, 2012
  10. Jonathan NiederJan 19, 2012
  11. Junio C HamanoJan 19, 2012
  12. Johannes SixtJan 19, 2012
  13. Junio C HamanoJan 19, 2012
  14. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJan 20, 2012
  15. Alex RiesenJan 20, 2012
  16. git-sh-i18n: detect and avoid broken gettext(1) implementationÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jan 20, 2012
  17. Alex RiesenJan 20, 2012
  18. Junio C HamanoJan 20, 2012
  19. Alex RiesenJan 20, 2012
  20. Junio C HamanoJan 20, 2012
  21. Alex RiesenJan 20, 2012
  22. Junio C HamanoJan 20, 2012
  23. Alex RiesenJan 20, 2012
  24. Junio C HamanoJan 20, 2012
  25. Alex RiesenJan 20, 2012
  26. Alex RiesenJan 19, 2012
  27. Alex RiesenJan 19, 2012
  28. add a Makefile switch to avoid gettext translation in shell scriptsAlex Riesen, Jan 19, 2012
  29. Junio C HamanoJan 23, 2012
  30. 1/2 git-sh-i18n: restructure the logic to compute gettext.sh schemeJunio C Hamano, Jan 23, 2012
  31. 2/2 add a Makefile switch to avoid gettext translation in shell scriptsJunio C Hamano, Jan 23, 2012
  32. Jonathan NiederJan 23, 2012
  33. Junio C HamanoJan 23, 2012
  34. Jonathan NiederJan 23, 2012
  35. 3/2 i18n: do not use gettext.sh by default when NO_GETTEXT is setJonathan Nieder, Jan 24, 2012
  36. Alex RiesenJan 24, 2012
  37. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJan 24, 2012
  38. Alex RiesenJan 24, 2012
  39. Alex RiesenJan 24, 2012
  40. Junio C HamanoJan 24, 2012

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