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Re: best git practices, was Re: Git User's Survey 2007 unfinished summary continued

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Steffen Prohaska <prohaska@zib.de>
Date
Oct 25, 2007, 12:04 UTC
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On Oct 25, 2007, at 12:27 PM, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Steffen Prohaska wrote:
>
>> On Oct 25, 2007, at 1:28 AM, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Steffen Prohaska wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Oct 25, 2007, at 12:14 AM, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
[...]
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>>>>> But here is a proposal which should make you and your developers
>>>>> happy, _and_ should be even easier to explain:
>>>>>
>>>>> Work with topic branches.  And when you're done, delete them.
>>>>
>>>> Again, if you want to share the topic branch the situation gets  
>>>> more
>>>> complex.
>>>
>>> Hardly so.  In my proposed solution to your problem, there is  
>>> nothing
>>> which prevents you from working off of another branch than "master".
>>
>> Well if you have several local branches checked out that are
>> shared with others you run into the "git push" problem again ...
>> (see below at git push origin master).
>
> Do the same as I, always say "git push origin master" (of course, you
> should exchange "master" with whatever branch you want to push).  Be
> precise.

Well, I'm lazy. git already knows everything. It knows that the current branch is associated with a specific remote and it pushes matching branches by default. And I took care to not pollute the namespace. All my branches are named identical in all repositories I'm dealing with. It's reasonable to want "git push" to do the right thing.

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>>>>> So the beginning of the day could look like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> 	git fetch
>>>>> 	git checkout -b todays-topic origin/master
>>>>>
>>>>> 	[hack hack hack]
>>>>> 	[test test test]
>>>>> 	[debug debug debug]
>>>>> 	[occasionally commit]
>>>>> 	[occasionally git rebase -i origin/master]
>>>>>
>>>>> and the end of the topic
>>>>>
>>>>> 	git branch -M master
>>
>> Isn't this a bit dangerous? It forces to overwrite master no matter
>> what's on it. You don't see diffstats nor a fast forward message that
>> confirms what you're doing.
>
> Yeah, I should have said something like "git branch -m master"
> (implicitely assuming that you have no current "master" branch).
>
>>>>> 	git push origin master
>>
>> I'd like to see "git push" here.
>
> I think it is not asking too much for the user to be a bit more  
> precise.
> If you really do not trust your developers to be capable of that,  
> point
> them to git gui.

Well I was more precise and got lazy over time. Now the most I do is "git push --dry-run" and if it looks good I do "git push". Most of the time I just say "git push".

As I pointed out earlier, "git push origin <some-branch>" can create a new branch on the remote. "git push" never creates a new branch. I believe "git push" is safer.

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>>    git branch -m <shared_branch>
>>    git push origin <shared_branch>
>>    git checkout do-not-work-here
>>    git branch -D <shared_branch>
>
> Actually, the last two commands would better be
>
> 	git checkout HEAD^{commit}
> 	git branch -d <shared_branch>
Wow, looks weird (not too me but to someone who doesn't know git).
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>>> The problem I see here: you know git quite well.  Others don't, and
>>> will be mightily confused why pull updates local branches sometimes,
>>> and sometimes not.
>>
>> But it already happens now. "git pull" sometimes merges a remote  
>> branch
>> (--track) and sometimes it reports an error that is fails to do so
>> (--no-track).
>
> If there really is an inconsistent behaviour, then we'll have to  
> fix that.
> We should not introduce inconsistent behaviour on top of that.

It's not inconsistent. It's an option of a branch. Git supports two flavours of local branches. Some branches automatically merge and other don't.

	Steffen
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