Re: [PATCH/POLL] git-format-patch: the default suffix is now .patch, not .txt

From: Alex Riesen <raa.lkml@gmail.com>
Date: Jan 18, 2007, 13:40 UTC
Message-ID: <81b0412b0701180540x15d20453s3dbc0c061fd06d50@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <625fc13d0701180352m151cceb3lf9c00b6cf0ae937b@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/18/07, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com> wrote:

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> > I think we'd raising the entry barrier with choosing the defaults
> > being so convenient for us. Well, the real-life programmers
> > are less of Unix-liking kind. They are more lazy and demotivated
> > kind, and Git will be _forced_ on them. It almost certainly
> > will not be their choice. Not always, some'll like it (heck, I know
> > people who swear by Perforce!), but most have a job, source
> > of income, and not the profession (like in professional pride).
>
> real-life programmers?  Please don't generalize.  It's insulting.

Just because you are not able to realize that the count of windows-based projects is still superior to that of say... "likable" systems, they wont magically disappear. If that is the case, I think I do some more insulting and say that they are not only real-life but also will never accept the statement of their ways being wrong, however stupid they may appear. That's just how it is, count them if you don't believe me.

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> > As much as like Unix and everything related, I think it is
> > not reasonable to try to change the majority. Not unless
> > we have something earth-shattering. Well, git is, but
> > 0001-fix....patch in email attachment probably not.
>
> I would venture to say that the _majority_ of git users are not using
> Windows.

The _real_ majority of the programmers desperately need a better VCS than CVS, SVN, Perforce, SourceSafe, ClearCase, etc.

> In this enviroment, Linux is likely the dominant OS,
> followed by other *nix.  So changing the extention to benefit the
> majorit of _git's_ users is a good thing.

Yes. For me and you. One of my coworkers knows nothing about patches, but wants (and perfectly able to) review my code. He has usable brains and is able to figure out what "+" and "-" is (he has, by now). He hasn't even realized that it was an automatically generated information, as I sent a patch to him first time, thought it was just a funny way to document changes (and was surprised when I told him a patch can be applied automatically, even if the original file is not exactly the same). But he is a typical windows-trained programmer. Lazy, unmotivated and happily married. He does programming by accident (was smart enough to learn the basics of the trade). Why would he want to take the an extra step of figuring out what that strange "0001-...patch" means? Now, I know him, would never think about sending him a real patch. I'm kinda grown and tired, and need the bastard, too. Someone younger will just call him idiot and "improve" the situation by telling him about "stupid windows" and "he should the right ways". Just to be answered "it worked for some millions programmers before you" and "I told your manager you making problems and are hard to communicate with".

People often understand "funny ways" the others may have. They don't like been told they are wrong or stupid (especially when they actually are stupid).