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Re: [PATCH] remote-helpers: point at their upstream repositories

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Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Date
May 20, 2014, 20:39 UTC
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Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Junio C Hamano wrote:
> >
> >>   2. add warning that is given every time the scripts are run and
> >>      give the same instruction as in README.
> >> 
> >>   3. (optional) cripple the script to make them always fail after
> >>      showing the same warning as above.
> >
> > This is what I want, and I already sent the patches for; the scripts
> > will be stubs. At this point you would have effectively removed the
> > code, which what I want.
> >  
> >>   4. Keep README and retire everything else.
> >
> > After you've removed the code, I don't care what you do, but I'd say you
> > should remove the stubs after a long period of time.
> 
> Let's try this in a different way, as I sense there is a
> misunderstanding somewhere about your "wish".
> 
> >> "that" does not refer to "remove them at v2.0 (unconditional)".  It
> >> refers to "If Felipe really wants for the removal for v2.0, I would
> >> respect that".  And I saw you said you did not want to disrupt v2.0.
> >> 
> >> If the options I listed all meant removal at v2.0, then I would
> >> understand your complaints, but that is not the case, so I am not
> >> sure what to make of that.
> >
> > It is a weird choice of semantics then. You said you would "respect" my
> > wish, but your proposals did not "follow" my wish.
> 
> I understand you do not want to disrupt v2.0.  My assumption of that
> "not disrupting v2.0" has been "there still are git-remote-{hg,bzr}
> that work just like what they had in v1.9.x, perhaps with some
> enhancements and regressions you added in the meantime", and I
> understood Peff's comment "If Felipe wants the removal" to mean that
> kind of "disruption", i.e. "there is no git-remote-{hg,bzr} that
> work.", which would be either step 3 or 4.
> 
> But your "After you've removed the code" comment above makes me
> wonder that perhaps your definition of "not disrupting" was
> different from ours (which is not good or bad, just different) and
> you consider that step 3. is "removal but not distupting v2.0"?
> 
> If that is what you want in v2.0, then please say so, and I already
> said I am fine with that.

No, I already said I do not want the code removed from v2.0, that's why I sent patches that simply added a warning, and I specifically said those were for 2.0.

However, after seeing this commit:
10e1fee (Revert "Merge branch 'fc/transport-helper-sync-error-fix'")
Which is:
 1) Inaccurate
 2) A lie (*you* broke 2.0, not me)
 3) A disservice to users

I therefore change my wish for you to remove all the remote helpers code and a replace them with stubs (the patches I originally sent for post-2.0).

It was a mistake from me to believe you would do the sensible thing for 2.0.

So to make it clear, I now request that you do:
 1) Remove all the code.
    Since my patches were removed from the list, here's an updated patch
    that applies on top of 'master'
    https://github.com/felipec/git/commits/up/remote/remove
 2) Reapply d508e4a (Merge branch 'fc/transport-helper-sync-error-fix')
    Since the code in question is no longer part of v2.0, a "possible
    regression" that you aren't even sure of cannot be the rationale to
    revert this code.
    Your commit 10e1fee (Revert "Merge branch
    'fc/transport-helper-sync-error-fix'") actively hurts the
    out-of-tree tools, so I'll consider a failure to re-revert a hostile
    action.
 3) Update the release notes to mention these tools have been removed
  Additionally, you might want to:
 4) Re-add the following release note:
    * "git push" via transport-helper interface (e.g. remote-hg) has
      been updated to allow forced ref updates in a way similar to the
      natively supported transports
    I don't know why you removed it in the first place. Clearly you pay
    no attention at all to these interfaces.
I expect you to do at the very least 1) and 2).
-- 
Felipe Contreras
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  1. remote-helpers: point at their upstream repositoriesJunio C Hamano, May 15, 2014
  2. Felipe ContrerasMay 16, 2014
  3. Jeff KingMay 16, 2014
  4. Paolo CiarrocchiMay 16, 2014
  5. Jeff KingMay 16, 2014
  6. Felipe ContrerasMay 16, 2014
  7. Felipe ContrerasMay 16, 2014
  8. Junio C HamanoMay 16, 2014
  9. Felipe ContrerasMay 16, 2014
  10. James DenholmMay 17, 2014
  11. Felipe ContrerasMay 17, 2014
  12. James DenholmMay 18, 2014
  13. Felipe ContrerasMay 18, 2014
  14. Junio C HamanoMay 18, 2014
  15. Felipe ContrerasMay 19, 2014
  16. Junio C HamanoMay 19, 2014
  17. Michael HaggertyMay 20, 2014
  18. Johan HerlandMay 20, 2014
  19. Felipe ContrerasMay 20, 2014
  20. Felipe ContrerasMay 20, 2014
  21. Jeff KingMay 16, 2014
  22. Felipe ContrerasMay 17, 2014
  23. Jeff KingMay 17, 2014
  24. Felipe ContrerasMay 17, 2014
  25. Matthieu MoyMay 18, 2014
  26. Felipe ContrerasMay 18, 2014
  27. Junio C HamanoMay 18, 2014
  28. Felipe ContrerasMay 19, 2014
  29. Junio C HamanoMay 19, 2014
  30. Felipe ContrerasMay 19, 2014
  31. Junio C HamanoMay 19, 2014
  32. Junio C HamanoMay 19, 2014
  33. Felipe ContrerasMay 20, 2014
  34. Junio C HamanoMay 20, 2014
  35. Junio C HamanoMay 19, 2014
  36. Felipe ContrerasMay 20, 2014
  37. Junio C HamanoMay 20, 2014
  38. Felipe ContrerasMay 20, 2014
  39. Junio C HamanoMay 20, 2014
  40. Junio C HamanoMay 16, 2014

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