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Re: Rss produced by git is not valid xml?

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HAH. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>
Date
Nov 20, 2005, 18:28 UTC
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Johannes Schindelin wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Kay Sievers wrote:
> 
> 
>>Yes, convince the git maintainers, that it's incredibly stupid not to
>>enforce utf8 in commit messages. It makes absolutely zero sense in a
>>SCM, which merges forth and back between people around the world to
>>allow random encodings from the last century.
> 
> 
> Oh, but it makes sense! Just because you happen to work on a very 
> international project does not mean everybody does.
> 
> Just because you happen to like utf-8 does not mean that you still do in 
> 2046. The encoding-du-jour might well be a 64-bit wide char code by then, 
> since they'll laugh about our dreaming about terabytes.
> 
> BTW, utf-8 was designed on purpose to be easily distinguishable from other 
> encodings so that you don't have to rely on every document obeying a 
> certain encoding.
> 

No, it wasn't. It was designated on purpose to be ASCII-compatible, substring-safe, and minimally stateful.

Furthermore, it's extensible. Although the original UTF-8 is limited to 31 bits, and the officially published UTF-8 is further crippled to 21 bits by Mirco$oft cronies who wanted it to be brainfuck-compatible with UTF-16, it could easily be extended to 64 bits or beyond.

I think it's *definitely* safe to say that whatever encoding we'll use in 2046, current UTF-8 will be a subset. If you don't believe me, consider how long we've had ASCII and the first of the design criteria for UTF-8 that I listed in the first paragraph.

	-hpa
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  1. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  2. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  3. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  4. Kay SieversNov 18, 2005
  5. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  6. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  7. H. Peter AnvinNov 18, 2005
  8. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  9. H. Peter AnvinNov 18, 2005
  10. Josef WeidendorferNov 18, 2005
  11. Kay SieversNov 18, 2005
  12. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  13. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  14. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  15. Junio C HamanoNov 18, 2005
  16. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  17. Junio C HamanoNov 19, 2005
  18. Kay SieversNov 18, 2005
  19. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  20. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  21. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  22. H. Peter AnvinNov 18, 2005
  23. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  24. H. Peter AnvinNov 18, 2005
  25. Andreas EricssonNov 18, 2005
  26. H. Peter AnvinNov 19, 2005
  27. Andreas EricssonNov 19, 2005
  28. Johannes SchindelinNov 19, 2005
  29. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  30. H. Peter AnvinNov 18, 2005
  31. Johannes SchindelinNov 19, 2005
  32. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  33. Johannes SchindelinNov 19, 2005
  34. Junio C HamanoNov 19, 2005
  35. Linus TorvaldsNov 19, 2005
  36. Junio C HamanoNov 19, 2005
  37. Linus TorvaldsNov 19, 2005
  38. Johannes SchindelinNov 20, 2005
  39. Linus TorvaldsNov 20, 2005
  40. Johannes SchindelinNov 20, 2005
  41. Johannes SchindelinNov 19, 2005
  42. H. Peter AnvinNov 20, 2005
  43. Johannes SchindelinNov 21, 2005
  44. H. Peter AnvinNov 21, 2005
  45. Junio C HamanoNov 19, 2005
  46. H. Peter AnvinNov 19, 2005
  47. Junio C HamanoNov 27, 2005
  48. Linus TorvaldsNov 27, 2005
  49. 2/3 mailinfo: allow -u to fall back on latin1 to utf8 conversion.Junio C Hamano, Nov 28, 2005
  50. H. Peter AnvinNov 28, 2005
  51. Junio C HamanoNov 28, 2005
  52. Kay SieversNov 27, 2005

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