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Re: Rss produced by git is not valid xml?

From
IDIsmail Donmez <ismail@uludag.org.tr>
Date
Nov 18, 2005, 21:22 UTC
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<200511182322.37050.ismail@uludag.org.tr>
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<Pine.LNX.4.64.0511181301320.13959@g5.osdl.org>
On Friday 18 November 2005 23:13, you wrote:
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> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Ismail Donmez wrote:
> > Maybe you could officially require all commit messages to be UTF-8 then
> > the problem would be just solved for future commits at least.
>
> Just think about what that would mean for a second.
>
> What do people put in commit messages? They put things like filenames, to
> indicate that they changed file so-and-so because of issue so-and-so, or
> they needed to include header file so-and-so to fix a problem.
>
> So by virtue of forcing all commit messages to be in UTF-8, you've
> suddenly forced all filesystems to do UTF-8 too.
>
> Take that one step further: you've also forced all the file _contents_
> you talk about to be in UTF-8, since the commit message might quote part
> of the file ("'xyzzy' was misspelled, it should be 'abcde'").
>
> Or alternatively, you've forced the commit message to no longer match the
> reality that it tries to explain.
>
> See the problem?
>
> And that's ignoring the fact that you've unilaterally forced probably 50%
> of asian users to use an environment that they don't normally use.
>
> Remember: it's actually pretty _easy_ for most of the western world to
> move to UTF-8, because 99% of what we do doesn't really care one whit, and
> the remaining 1% isn't usually even a huge problem (ie it's such a small
> percentage that even if you show the wrong character for it, people
> understand what it said).

These days you can just open kwrite, select encoding and voila you don't have to change anything on the filesystem you can still use whatever $LANG you use. We would just force them to use a working editor imho. Nothing else. And thats not much to ask is it? Even joe(1) can edit utf-8 these days that must tell something.

Regards, ismail

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  1. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  2. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  3. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  4. Kay SieversNov 18, 2005
  5. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  6. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  7. H. Peter AnvinNov 18, 2005
  8. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  9. H. Peter AnvinNov 18, 2005
  10. Josef WeidendorferNov 18, 2005
  11. Kay SieversNov 18, 2005
  12. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  13. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  14. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  15. Junio C HamanoNov 18, 2005
  16. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  17. Junio C HamanoNov 19, 2005
  18. Kay SieversNov 18, 2005
  19. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  20. Ismail DonmezNov 18, 2005
  21. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  22. H. Peter AnvinNov 18, 2005
  23. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  24. H. Peter AnvinNov 18, 2005
  25. Andreas EricssonNov 18, 2005
  26. H. Peter AnvinNov 19, 2005
  27. Andreas EricssonNov 19, 2005
  28. Johannes SchindelinNov 19, 2005
  29. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  30. H. Peter AnvinNov 18, 2005
  31. Johannes SchindelinNov 19, 2005
  32. Linus TorvaldsNov 18, 2005
  33. Johannes SchindelinNov 19, 2005
  34. Junio C HamanoNov 19, 2005
  35. Linus TorvaldsNov 19, 2005
  36. Junio C HamanoNov 19, 2005
  37. Linus TorvaldsNov 19, 2005
  38. Johannes SchindelinNov 20, 2005
  39. Linus TorvaldsNov 20, 2005
  40. Johannes SchindelinNov 20, 2005
  41. Johannes SchindelinNov 19, 2005
  42. H. Peter AnvinNov 20, 2005
  43. Johannes SchindelinNov 21, 2005
  44. H. Peter AnvinNov 21, 2005
  45. Junio C HamanoNov 19, 2005
  46. H. Peter AnvinNov 19, 2005
  47. Junio C HamanoNov 27, 2005
  48. Linus TorvaldsNov 27, 2005
  49. 2/3 mailinfo: allow -u to fall back on latin1 to utf8 conversion.Junio C Hamano, Nov 28, 2005
  50. H. Peter AnvinNov 28, 2005
  51. Junio C HamanoNov 28, 2005
  52. Kay SieversNov 27, 2005

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