Re: Rss produced by git is not valid xml?
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- Ismail Donmez <ismail@uludag.org.tr>
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- Nov 18, 2005, 21:33 UTC
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- <200511182333.23687.ismail@uludag.org.tr>
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On Friday 18 November 2005 23:30, you wrote:
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> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, Kay Sievers wrote: > > Actually, the real bug is not to try to prevent binary nonsense in > > textual commit logs, which are distibuted. Remember, that you provide a > > SCM not a filesystem. > > I never said they were text, and in fact, I never even said I'm doing an > SCM. Quite the reverse. I very much said that I'm doing a filesystem that > is flexible. > > The fact that the headers are text-like is not so much about text as it is > about flexibility and easy tool access. If you look at the git object > format, for example, the header is strictly NUL-terminated ASCII, but the > object itself is a pure binary data stream. Which obviously just _happens_ > to often be text too, since quite often the object contents is something > like a C source file, but there's a real power to _not_ thinking that it > means that files are text-files. > > And I like UTF-8, but the fact is, all my editors and mail tools are still > Latin-1. My editor converts the UTF-8 input into latin1 and keeps it in > that format on disk (it writes it to the _screen_ as UTF-1 just to make > the glyphs come out right, but the file it works with is still latin1). > > Could I change? Yup, I could change pretty easily. I wrote the code that > did the latin1 conversion, and I've got source for my tools, so I could > just decide one day that I'll join the 21st century and switch. I just > haven't done so yet. > > The fact that _I_ can't be bothered, even though I'm in just about the > best possible situation (I've got a keyboard with åäö on it, but they're > not in my name, so I don't use them that much) should tell you something. > Namely, it should tell you that there's a _lot_ of people who have a much > harder time than I do in changing their setups. > > I think most of Asia _still_ doesn't use utf-8. And I _guarantee_ you that > it's a hell of a lot easier for you to complain about it and say "they > should" than it is for them to actually do so and convert all the programs > they use. > > On this mailing list, the only person that I've seen pipe up about these > things in the past _and_ that I suspect actually has to work with this > thing in real life (instead of just from a theoretical "this is how things > should be done" standpoint) is Junio. And last I heard (if I remember > correctly), Junio explicitly said that a lot of the people he works with > still use shift-jis. > > And I'm not surprised. Look on the web. As far as I know, shift-jis is > still much more common than utf-8. > > AND IT DOESN'T MATTER ONE WHIT WHEN SOME GEEK SAYS "THEY SHOULDN'T DO > THAT, THEN"! > > Software should conform to people, not the other way around.
Linus,
I got your point. But the XML should reflect the data it contains. This _is_ my problem. Will the data be latin-1, OK then the xml should say its latin-1 and not lie as utf-8.
Regards, ismail