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Re: Bizarre missing changes (git bug?)

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Kevin Ballard <kevin@sb.org>
Date
Jul 30, 2008, 01:32 UTC
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On Jul 29, 2008, at 6:14 PM, Roman Zippel wrote:
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>> So here's my challenge again, which you seem to have TOTALLY MISSED.
>>
>> Make this be fast:
>>
>> 	time sh -c "git log <filename> | head"
>>
>> nothing else matters. If you can make that one be fast, I'm happy.
>
> I already explained it, but you simply dismissed it. It's possible,  
> but it
> requires a bit of cached information (e.g. as part of the pack file,  
> which
> is needed for decent performance anyway).

As an outside observer, this argument is basically akin to "it's easy to fly, you just need some faerie dust". Basically, you're dismissing the entire complexity of the problem by saying "oh, that's easy, just use some cached data" without any proof that this would work, or any sample code, or really any evidence at all. Given that the path simplification can be arbitrarily complex (I can pass any set of paths I want), I don't believe that you can just use "a bit of cached information" for this. If you did rely on cached information, said information would probably be orders of magnitude larger than the object graph itself (for repos with lots of files).

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>> In fact, you can see what I'm talking about by trying --topo-order  
>> in the
>> above timing test.
>
> Please give me full example.
> gitk --topo-order kernel/printk.c shows no difference (e.g. it doesn't
> show 02630a12c7f72fa294981c8d86e38038781c25b7), several experiments  
> with
> git-rev-list show no improvement either.

He's not saying it changes what commits are shown, he's saying it has a performance impact - topo order has to post-process the graph. For a quick demonstration, run `time sh -c 'git log | head'` vs `time sh -c 'git log --topo-order | head'`.

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Message 39 of 58 in “Bizarre missing changes (git bug?)”
  1. Tim HarperJul 21, 2008
  2. Linus TorvaldsJul 21, 2008
  3. Tim HarperJul 21, 2008
  4. Tim HarperJul 21, 2008
  5. Roman ZippelJul 26, 2008
  6. Linus TorvaldsJul 26, 2008
  7. Roman ZippelJul 27, 2008
  8. Linus TorvaldsJul 27, 2008
  9. Roman ZippelJul 27, 2008
  10. Linus TorvaldsJul 27, 2008
  11. Roman ZippelJul 28, 2008
  12. Linus TorvaldsJul 28, 2008
  13. Linus TorvaldsJul 28, 2008
  14. Roman ZippelJul 29, 2008
  15. Martin LanghoffJul 29, 2008
  16. Roman ZippelJul 30, 2008
  17. Martin LanghoffJul 30, 2008
  18. Linus TorvaldsJul 30, 2008
  19. Linus TorvaldsJul 30, 2008
  20. Junio C HamanoJul 30, 2008
  21. Junio C HamanoJul 31, 2008
  22. Linus TorvaldsJul 31, 2008
  23. revision traversal: show full history with merge simplificationJunio C Hamano, Jul 31, 2008
  24. Junio C HamanoJul 31, 2008
  25. Linus TorvaldsJul 31, 2008
  26. revision traversal: show full history with merge simplificationJunio C Hamano, Jul 31, 2008
  27. Linus TorvaldsJul 31, 2008
  28. Junio C HamanoJul 31, 2008
  29. Junio C HamanoAug 1, 2008
  30. Linus TorvaldsAug 1, 2008
  31. Junio C HamanoAug 1, 2008
  32. Jakub NarebskiJul 30, 2008
  33. Linus TorvaldsJul 29, 2008
  34. Linus TorvaldsJul 29, 2008
  35. Roman ZippelJul 29, 2008
  36. David KastrupJul 29, 2008
  37. Linus TorvaldsJul 29, 2008
  38. Roman ZippelJul 30, 2008
  39. Kevin BallardJul 30, 2008
  40. Linus TorvaldsJul 30, 2008
  41. Jeff KingJul 29, 2008
  42. Roman ZippelJul 29, 2008
  43. Olivier GalibertJul 29, 2008
  44. Jeff KingJul 29, 2008
  45. Linus TorvaldsJul 29, 2008
  46. Roman ZippelJul 30, 2008
  47. Linus TorvaldsJul 30, 2008
  48. Jeff KingJul 30, 2008
  49. Linus TorvaldsJul 30, 2008
  50. Roman ZippelJul 30, 2008
  51. Kevin BallardJul 30, 2008
  52. Linus TorvaldsJul 30, 2008
  53. Linus TorvaldsJul 30, 2008
  54. Jeff KingJul 30, 2008
  55. Martin LanghoffJul 27, 2008
  56. Roman ZippelJul 28, 2008
  57. Alex RiesenJul 21, 2008
  58. Linus TorvaldsJul 21, 2008

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