git/list[1] front-page[2] threads[3] people[4] search[5] about
 

Re: [PATCH] Teach "git add" and friends to be paranoid

From
Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Date
Feb 18, 2010, 18:12 UTC
Message-ID
<20100218181247.GA1052@progeny.tock>
In-Reply-To
<20100218161843.GB11733@gibbs.hungrycats.org>
Zygo Blaxell wrote:
Show 6 quoted lines
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 08:27:28AM +0100, Wincent Colaiuta wrote:
>> Shouldn't a switch that hurts performance and is only needed for
>> insane use cases default to off rather than on?
>
> While I don't disagree that default off might(*) be a good idea,
> I do object to the categorization of this use case as 'insane'.

FWIW I think default off would not be a good idea. This talk of insane uses started from the idea that git is not so great for taking automatic snapshots, but as you pointed out, other situations can trigger this and the failure mode is pretty bad.

> (*) "might" be a good idea because there's been some evidence to suggest
> that a paranoid implementation of git add might perform better than the
> mmap-based one in all cases, if more work was done than anyone seems
> willing to do.

What you are saying here seems a bit handwavy. If you have some concrete ideas about what this paranoid implementation should look like, I encourage you to write a rough patch. The two patches so far have indicated the relevant parts of sha1_file.c (index_fd at the beginning and write_sha1_file at the end of the pipeline, respectively). Special cases include:

 - The blob being added to the repository is a special file (e.g.,
   pipe) specified on the 'git hash-object' command line: I think it’s
   fine if this is slow, but it should keep working.
 - The blob was generated in memory (e.g. 'git apply --cached').
 - autocrlf conversion is on.  This means scanning through the file to
   collect statistics on the dominant line ending, then scanning
   through again to convert the file.
 - some other filter is on.  This means sending the file as input to
   a command, then slurping it up somewhere until its length has been
   determined for the beginning of the blob header
 - The blob being added to the repository is already in the repository,
   so it would be a waste of time to compress and write it again.

Some of these already don’t have great performance for large files (autocrlf and filters), and I suspect there is room for improvement for many of them.

Jonathan
Previous: Zygo BlaxellNext: Junio C Hamano
Message 47 of 84 in “Re: Bug#569505: git-core: 'git add' corrupts repository if the working directory is modified as it runs”
  1. Jonathan NiederFeb 12, 2010
  2. Zygo BlaxellFeb 12, 2010
  3. Jonathan NiederFeb 13, 2010
  4. Ilari LiusvaaraFeb 13, 2010
  5. Thomas RastFeb 13, 2010
  6. Ilari LiusvaaraFeb 13, 2010
  7. Dmitry PotapovFeb 13, 2010
  8. Zygo BlaxellFeb 13, 2010
  9. don't use mmap() to hash filesDmitry Potapov, Feb 14, 2010
  10. Junio C HamanoFeb 14, 2010
  11. Dmitry PotapovFeb 14, 2010
  12. Junio C HamanoFeb 14, 2010
  13. Thomas RastFeb 14, 2010
  14. Junio C HamanoFeb 14, 2010
  15. Johannes SchindelinFeb 14, 2010
  16. Junio C HamanoFeb 14, 2010
  17. Dmitry PotapovFeb 14, 2010
  18. Jakub NarebskiFeb 14, 2010
  19. Paolo BonziniFeb 14, 2010
  20. Johannes SchindelinFeb 14, 2010
  21. Dmitry PotapovFeb 14, 2010
  22. Johannes SchindelinFeb 14, 2010
  23. Johannes SchindelinFeb 14, 2010
  24. Dmitry PotapovFeb 14, 2010
  25. Zygo BlaxellFeb 14, 2010
  26. Nicolas PitreFeb 15, 2010
  27. Dmitry PotapovFeb 15, 2010
  28. Paolo BonziniFeb 15, 2010
  29. Dmitry PotapovFeb 15, 2010
  30. Dmitry PotapovFeb 14, 2010
  31. Avery PennarunFeb 14, 2010
  32. Nicolas PitreFeb 15, 2010
  33. Avery PennarunFeb 15, 2010
  34. Nicolas PitreFeb 15, 2010
  35. Avery PennarunFeb 15, 2010
  36. Nicolas PitreFeb 15, 2010
  37. don't use mmap() to hash filesDmitry Potapov, Feb 14, 2010
  38. Teach "git add" and friends to be paranoidJunio C Hamano, Feb 18, 2010
  39. Junio C HamanoFeb 18, 2010
  40. Zygo BlaxellFeb 18, 2010
  41. Junio C HamanoFeb 19, 2010
  42. Jeff KingFeb 18, 2010
  43. Nicolas PitreFeb 18, 2010
  44. Junio C HamanoFeb 18, 2010
  45. Wincent ColaiutaFeb 18, 2010
  46. Zygo BlaxellFeb 18, 2010
  47. Jonathan NiederFeb 18, 2010
  48. Junio C HamanoFeb 18, 2010
  49. Paolo BonziniFeb 22, 2010
  50. Dmitry PotapovFeb 22, 2010
  51. Thomas RastFeb 18, 2010
  52. Junio C HamanoFeb 18, 2010
  53. Nicolas PitreFeb 18, 2010
  54. 16 gig, 350,000 file repositoryBill Lear, Feb 18, 2010
  55. Nicolas PitreFeb 18, 2010
  56. Erik Faye-LundFeb 19, 2010
  57. Bill LearFeb 22, 2010
  58. Nicolas PitreFeb 22, 2010
  59. Peter HarrisFeb 18, 2010
  60. Junio C HamanoFeb 18, 2010
  61. Nicolas PitreFeb 18, 2010
  62. Jonathan NiederFeb 19, 2010
  63. Zygo BlaxellFeb 19, 2010
  64. Junio C HamanoFeb 19, 2010
  65. Zygo BlaxellFeb 19, 2010
  66. Dmitry PotapovFeb 19, 2010
  67. Junio C HamanoFeb 19, 2010
  68. Junio C HamanoFeb 20, 2010
  69. Dmitry PotapovFeb 21, 2010
  70. Junio C HamanoFeb 21, 2010
  71. Dmitry PotapovFeb 22, 2010
  72. Junio C HamanoFeb 22, 2010
  73. Dmitry PotapovFeb 22, 2010
  74. Nicolas PitreFeb 22, 2010
  75. Dmitry PotapovFeb 22, 2010
  76. Zygo BlaxellFeb 22, 2010
  77. Nicolas PitreFeb 22, 2010
  78. Junio C HamanoFeb 22, 2010
  79. Nicolas PitreFeb 22, 2010
  80. Dmitry PotapovFeb 22, 2010
  81. Nicolas PitreFeb 22, 2010
  82. mmap with MAP_PRIVATE is useless (was Re: Bug#569505: git-core: 'git add' corrupts repository if the working directory is modified as it runs)Paolo Bonzini, Feb 14, 2010
  83. Junio C HamanoFeb 14, 2010
  84. Paolo BonziniFeb 14, 2010

Read the whole thread, see it on lore, or plain text.

$ cat FOOTERMessages come from the public archive at lore.kernel.org/git, fetched every hour. The front page is chosen and written each morning by an AI editor and can be wrong; the threads themselves are the record. About and API. For agents: an MCP server at https://gitlist.dev/mcp, and any thread, story or person page as Markdown by adding .md to its URL (or sending Accept: text/markdown). Details in /llms.txt.