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Re: [RFC PATCH 1/8] trace2: log fsync stats in trace2 rather than wrapper

From
Victoria Dye <vdye@github.com>
Date
Jul 5, 2023, 18:22 UTC
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Calvin Wan wrote:
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>> An added note re: the commit message - it's extremely important that
>> functions _anywhere in Git_ are able to use the Trace2 API directly. A
>> developer could reasonably want to measure performance, keep track of an
>> interesting metric, log when a region is entered in the larger trace,
>> capture error information, etc. for any function, regardless of where in
>> falls in the internal library organization.
> 
> I don't quite agree that functions _anywhere in Git_ are able to use
> the Trace2 API directly for the same reason that we don't have the
> ability to log functions in external libraries -- logging common,
> low-level functionality creates an unnecessary amount of log churn and
> those logs generally contain practically useless information. 

That may be true in your use cases, but it isn't in mine and may not be for others'. In fact, I was just using these exact fsync metrics a couple weeks ago to do some performance analysis; I could easily imagine doing something similar for another "low level" function. It's unreasonable - and unfair to future development - to make an absolute declaration about "what's useful vs. useless" and use that decision to justify severely limiting our future flexibility on the matter.

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> However,
> that does not mean that all of the functions in git-std-lib fall into
> that category (usage has certain functions definitely worth logging).
> This means that files like usage.c could instead be separated into its
> own library and git-std-lib would only contain files that we deem
> "should never be logged".

How do you make that determination? What about if/when someone realizes, somewhere down the line, that one of those "should never be logged" files would actually benefit from some aggregate metric, e.g. a Trace2 timer? This isn't a case of extracting an extraneous dependency (where a function really doesn't _need_ something it has access to); tracing & logging is a core functionality in Git, and should not be artificially constrained in the name of organization.

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>> To that end, I think either the
>> commit message should be rephrased to remove that statement (if the issue is
>> really "we're using a static variable and we want to avoid that"), or the
>> libification effort should be updated to accommodate use of Trace2 anywhere
>> in Git.
> 
> Besides potentially redrawing the boundaries of git-std-lib to
> accommodate Trace2, we're also looking into the possibility of
> stubbing out tracing in git-std-lib so that it and other libraries can
> be built and tested, and then when Trace2 is turned into a library,
> it's full functionality can be linked to.

If that allows you to meet your libification goals without limiting Trace2's accessibility throughout the codebase, that works for me.

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Message 5 of 111 in “Introduce Git Standard Library”
  1. 0/8 Introduce Git Standard LibraryCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  2. 1/8 trace2: log fsync stats in trace2 rather than wrapperCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  3. Victoria DyeJun 28, 2023
  4. Calvin WanJul 5, 2023
  5. Victoria DyeJul 5, 2023
  6. Jeff HostetlerJul 11, 2023
  7. 2/8 hex-ll: split out functionality from hexCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  8. Phillip WoodJun 28, 2023
  9. Calvin WanJun 28, 2023
  10. 3/8 object: move function to object.cCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  11. 4/8 config: correct bad boolean env value error messageCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  12. 5/8 parse: create new library for parsing strings and env valuesCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  13. Junio C HamanoJun 27, 2023
  14. 6/8 pager: remove pager_in_use()Calvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  15. Junio C HamanoJun 27, 2023
  16. Calvin WanJun 27, 2023
  17. Glen ChooJun 28, 2023
  18. Glen ChooJun 28, 2023
  19. Calvin WanJun 28, 2023
  20. Junio C HamanoJun 28, 2023
  21. Junio C HamanoJun 28, 2023
  22. 8/8 git-std-lib: add test file to call git-std-lib.a functionsCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  23. 7/8 git-std-lib: introduce git standard libraryCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  24. Phillip WoodJun 28, 2023
  25. Calvin WanJun 28, 2023
  26. Phillip WoodJun 30, 2023
  27. Glen ChooJun 28, 2023
  28. Calvin WanJun 28, 2023
  29. Linus ArverJun 30, 2023
  30. 0/7 Introduce Git Standard LibraryCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  31. 2/7 object: move function to object.cCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  32. Junio C HamanoAug 10, 2023
  33. Glen ChooAug 10, 2023
  34. Junio C HamanoAug 10, 2023
  35. 1/7 hex-ll: split out functionality from hexCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  36. 3/7 config: correct bad boolean env value error messageCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  37. Junio C HamanoAug 10, 2023
  38. 5/7 date: push pager.h dependency upCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  39. Glen ChooAug 10, 2023
  40. Jonathan TanAug 14, 2023
  41. 4/7 parse: create new library for parsing strings and env valuesCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  42. Glen ChooAug 10, 2023
  43. Junio C HamanoAug 10, 2023
  44. Jonathan TanAug 14, 2023
  45. Jonathan TanAug 14, 2023
  46. Junio C HamanoAug 14, 2023
  47. 7/7 git-std-lib: add test file to call git-std-lib.a functionsCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  48. Jonathan TanAug 14, 2023
  49. 6/7 git-std-lib: introduce git standard libraryCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  50. Jonathan TanAug 14, 2023
  51. Glen ChooAug 10, 2023
  52. Phillip WoodAug 15, 2023
  53. Calvin WanAug 16, 2023
  54. Junio C HamanoAug 16, 2023
  55. Phillip WoodAug 15, 2023
  56. 0/6 Introduce Git Standard LibraryCalvin Wan, Sep 8, 2023
  57. 2/6 wrapper: remove dependency to Git-specific internal fileCalvin Wan, Sep 8, 2023
  58. Jonathan TanSep 15, 2023
  59. 1/6 hex-ll: split out functionality from hexCalvin Wan, Sep 8, 2023
  60. 3/6 config: correct bad boolean env value error messageCalvin Wan, Sep 8, 2023
  61. 4/6 parse: create new library for parsing strings and env valuesCalvin Wan, Sep 8, 2023
  62. 5/6 git-std-lib: introduce git standard libraryCalvin Wan, Sep 8, 2023
  63. Phillip WoodSep 11, 2023
  64. Phillip WoodSep 27, 2023
  65. Jonathan TanSep 15, 2023
  66. phillip.wood123@gmail.comSep 26, 2023
  67. 6/6 git-std-lib: add test file to call git-std-lib.a functionsCalvin Wan, Sep 8, 2023
  68. Junio C HamanoSep 9, 2023
  69. Jonathan TanSep 15, 2023
  70. Junio C HamanoSep 15, 2023
  71. Junio C HamanoSep 8, 2023
  72. Junio C HamanoSep 8, 2023
  73. 0/4 Preliminary patches before git-std-libJonathan Tan, Sep 29, 2023
  74. 1/4 hex-ll: separate out non-hash-algo functionsJonathan Tan, Sep 29, 2023
  75. Linus ArverOct 21, 2023
  76. 2/4 wrapper: reduce scope of remove_or_warn()Jonathan Tan, Sep 29, 2023
  77. phillip.wood123@gmail.comOct 10, 2023
  78. Junio C HamanoOct 10, 2023
  79. Jonathan TanOct 10, 2023
  80. 3/4 config: correct bad boolean env value error messageJonathan Tan, Sep 29, 2023
  81. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2023
  82. 4/4 parse: separate out parsing functions from config.hJonathan Tan, Sep 29, 2023
  83. phillip.wood123@gmail.comOct 10, 2023
  84. Jonathan TanOct 10, 2023
  85. Phillip WoodOct 10, 2023
  86. Junio C HamanoOct 10, 2023
  87. phillip.wood123@gmail.comOct 10, 2023
  88. Jonathan TanOct 10, 2023
  89. 0/3 Introduce Git Standard LibraryCalvin Wan, Feb 22, 2024
  90. 1/3 pager: include stdint.h because uintmax_t is usedCalvin Wan, Feb 22, 2024
  91. Junio C HamanoFeb 22, 2024
  92. Kyle LippincottFeb 26, 2024
  93. Junio C HamanoFeb 27, 2024
  94. Kyle LippincottFeb 27, 2024
  95. Junio C HamanoFeb 27, 2024
  96. Kyle LippincottFeb 27, 2024
  97. Junio C HamanoFeb 27, 2024
  98. Jeff KingFeb 27, 2024
  99. Jeff KingFeb 27, 2024
  100. Kyle LippincottFeb 27, 2024
  101. Kyle LippincottFeb 24, 2024
  102. Junio C HamanoFeb 24, 2024
  103. 2/3 git-std-lib: introduce Git Standard LibraryCalvin Wan, Feb 22, 2024
  104. Phillip WoodFeb 29, 2024
  105. Junio C HamanoFeb 29, 2024
  106. Linus ArverFeb 29, 2024
  107. Junio C HamanoFeb 29, 2024
  108. Linus ArverFeb 29, 2024
  109. 3/3 test-stdlib: show that git-std-lib is independentCalvin Wan, Feb 22, 2024
  110. Junio C HamanoFeb 22, 2024
  111. Junio C HamanoMar 7, 2024

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