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Re: [PATCH v5 2/3] git-std-lib: introduce Git Standard Library

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Feb 29, 2024, 17:23 UTC
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Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com> writes:
> Hi Calvin
> On 22/02/2024 17:50, Calvin Wan wrote:

Thanks for reviewing -- I held mine back as I expected this will see another reroll soonish, but you already have raised many points I also had trouble with, so I do not have to ;-)

Below, I'll liberally omit everything you wrote that I agree with.
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>> +libgit.a, which is then linked against by common-main.o with other
>> +external dependencies and turned into the Git executable.
>
> I found this description a bit confusing. As I understand it to build
> git we link git.o against common-main.o, libgit.a, xdiff/lib.a,
> reftable/libreftable.a and libpcre etc.

In addition, there is no single "the Git executable", simply because not everything is builtin command. The purpose of using libgit.a is because we are too lazy to list and maintain all the internal dependencies to link final executables like 'git' (which has all the built-in command implementations) and 'git-remote-curl' (which is a standalone program). Instead of feeding exact list of object files to "$(CC) -o git" command line, we throw everything into libgit.a and let the linker pick what is needed. To link "git", we may include all builtin/*.o, git.o, common-main.o, libgit.a and the external [*] library dependencies they have. To link "git-daemon", we may not link builtin/*.o and git.o and link daemon.o instead.

	Side note: here I am counting xdiff/lib.a as an external
	library as it is mostly a borrowed code.

In other words, libgit.a is not a true library in the sense that it was designed to be _used_ as a library. It was merely a detail of how we implemented lazy dependency management in our build process, which happend with 0a02ce72 (Clean up the Makefile a bit., 2005-04-18) whose commit log message uses air-quotes around the word "library".

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>> +From the above dependency graph, we can see that git-std-lib.a could be
>> +many smaller libraries rather than a singular library. So why choose a
>> +singular library when multiple libraries can be individually easier to
>> +swap and are more modular? A singular library requires less work to
>> +separate out circular dependencies within itself so it becomes a
>> +tradeoff question between work and reward. While there may be a point in
>> +the future where a file like usage.c would want its own library so that
>> +someone can have custom die() or error(), the work required to refactor
>> +out the circular dependencies in some files would be enormous due to
>> +their ubiquity so therefore I believe it is not worth the tradeoff
>
> I'm not sure if we want to use the first person in our technical
> documentation, unlike the cover letter to a patch series it is not
> immediately obvious to the reader who "I" is. This applies the
> passages in the first person below as well.

I found it highly annoying while reading it, too. If the document (not the commit that introduced the document) were signed and written to state the position of one author, as opposed to spell out the position the project will collectively take, it would have been OK, but this document is meant to set a course of the project (and discussion on it is the process to decide which course to take), the first person singular "I" did not sit well for me.

Another thing to consider that I do not think you covered is the name of the resulting .a archive. By starting it with "lib", a customer can find your libstdgit.a with -lstdgit on the command line, once libstdgit.a is installed at an appropriate location (or the build-time library path is configured to point the location you have libstdgit.a at). libgit.a that wasn't really designed to be used as such a library did not have to follow the naming convention, but if the thing being proposed is meant to be eventually used as a library by external entities, git-std-lib.a is a rather poor name for it.

PS.

I seem to have been hit by a power outage and am on UPS, so I'll probably be offline until the power comes back.

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Message 105 of 111 in “Introduce Git Standard Library”
  1. 0/8 Introduce Git Standard LibraryCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  2. 1/8 trace2: log fsync stats in trace2 rather than wrapperCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  3. Victoria DyeJun 28, 2023
  4. Calvin WanJul 5, 2023
  5. Victoria DyeJul 5, 2023
  6. Jeff HostetlerJul 11, 2023
  7. 2/8 hex-ll: split out functionality from hexCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  8. Phillip WoodJun 28, 2023
  9. Calvin WanJun 28, 2023
  10. 3/8 object: move function to object.cCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  11. 4/8 config: correct bad boolean env value error messageCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  12. 5/8 parse: create new library for parsing strings and env valuesCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  13. Junio C HamanoJun 27, 2023
  14. 6/8 pager: remove pager_in_use()Calvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  15. Junio C HamanoJun 27, 2023
  16. Calvin WanJun 27, 2023
  17. Glen ChooJun 28, 2023
  18. Glen ChooJun 28, 2023
  19. Calvin WanJun 28, 2023
  20. Junio C HamanoJun 28, 2023
  21. Junio C HamanoJun 28, 2023
  22. 8/8 git-std-lib: add test file to call git-std-lib.a functionsCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  23. 7/8 git-std-lib: introduce git standard libraryCalvin Wan, Jun 27, 2023
  24. Phillip WoodJun 28, 2023
  25. Calvin WanJun 28, 2023
  26. Phillip WoodJun 30, 2023
  27. Glen ChooJun 28, 2023
  28. Calvin WanJun 28, 2023
  29. Linus ArverJun 30, 2023
  30. 0/7 Introduce Git Standard LibraryCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  31. 2/7 object: move function to object.cCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  32. Junio C HamanoAug 10, 2023
  33. Glen ChooAug 10, 2023
  34. Junio C HamanoAug 10, 2023
  35. 1/7 hex-ll: split out functionality from hexCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  36. 3/7 config: correct bad boolean env value error messageCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  37. Junio C HamanoAug 10, 2023
  38. 5/7 date: push pager.h dependency upCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  39. Glen ChooAug 10, 2023
  40. Jonathan TanAug 14, 2023
  41. 4/7 parse: create new library for parsing strings and env valuesCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  42. Glen ChooAug 10, 2023
  43. Junio C HamanoAug 10, 2023
  44. Jonathan TanAug 14, 2023
  45. Jonathan TanAug 14, 2023
  46. Junio C HamanoAug 14, 2023
  47. 7/7 git-std-lib: add test file to call git-std-lib.a functionsCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  48. Jonathan TanAug 14, 2023
  49. 6/7 git-std-lib: introduce git standard libraryCalvin Wan, Aug 10, 2023
  50. Jonathan TanAug 14, 2023
  51. Glen ChooAug 10, 2023
  52. Phillip WoodAug 15, 2023
  53. Calvin WanAug 16, 2023
  54. Junio C HamanoAug 16, 2023
  55. Phillip WoodAug 15, 2023
  56. 0/6 Introduce Git Standard LibraryCalvin Wan, Sep 8, 2023
  57. 2/6 wrapper: remove dependency to Git-specific internal fileCalvin Wan, Sep 8, 2023
  58. Jonathan TanSep 15, 2023
  59. 1/6 hex-ll: split out functionality from hexCalvin Wan, Sep 8, 2023
  60. 3/6 config: correct bad boolean env value error messageCalvin Wan, Sep 8, 2023
  61. 4/6 parse: create new library for parsing strings and env valuesCalvin Wan, Sep 8, 2023
  62. 5/6 git-std-lib: introduce git standard libraryCalvin Wan, Sep 8, 2023
  63. Phillip WoodSep 11, 2023
  64. Phillip WoodSep 27, 2023
  65. Jonathan TanSep 15, 2023
  66. phillip.wood123@gmail.comSep 26, 2023
  67. 6/6 git-std-lib: add test file to call git-std-lib.a functionsCalvin Wan, Sep 8, 2023
  68. Junio C HamanoSep 9, 2023
  69. Jonathan TanSep 15, 2023
  70. Junio C HamanoSep 15, 2023
  71. Junio C HamanoSep 8, 2023
  72. Junio C HamanoSep 8, 2023
  73. 0/4 Preliminary patches before git-std-libJonathan Tan, Sep 29, 2023
  74. 1/4 hex-ll: separate out non-hash-algo functionsJonathan Tan, Sep 29, 2023
  75. Linus ArverOct 21, 2023
  76. 2/4 wrapper: reduce scope of remove_or_warn()Jonathan Tan, Sep 29, 2023
  77. phillip.wood123@gmail.comOct 10, 2023
  78. Junio C HamanoOct 10, 2023
  79. Jonathan TanOct 10, 2023
  80. 3/4 config: correct bad boolean env value error messageJonathan Tan, Sep 29, 2023
  81. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2023
  82. 4/4 parse: separate out parsing functions from config.hJonathan Tan, Sep 29, 2023
  83. phillip.wood123@gmail.comOct 10, 2023
  84. Jonathan TanOct 10, 2023
  85. Phillip WoodOct 10, 2023
  86. Junio C HamanoOct 10, 2023
  87. phillip.wood123@gmail.comOct 10, 2023
  88. Jonathan TanOct 10, 2023
  89. 0/3 Introduce Git Standard LibraryCalvin Wan, Feb 22, 2024
  90. 1/3 pager: include stdint.h because uintmax_t is usedCalvin Wan, Feb 22, 2024
  91. Junio C HamanoFeb 22, 2024
  92. Kyle LippincottFeb 26, 2024
  93. Junio C HamanoFeb 27, 2024
  94. Kyle LippincottFeb 27, 2024
  95. Junio C HamanoFeb 27, 2024
  96. Kyle LippincottFeb 27, 2024
  97. Junio C HamanoFeb 27, 2024
  98. Jeff KingFeb 27, 2024
  99. Jeff KingFeb 27, 2024
  100. Kyle LippincottFeb 27, 2024
  101. Kyle LippincottFeb 24, 2024
  102. Junio C HamanoFeb 24, 2024
  103. 2/3 git-std-lib: introduce Git Standard LibraryCalvin Wan, Feb 22, 2024
  104. Phillip WoodFeb 29, 2024
  105. Junio C HamanoFeb 29, 2024
  106. Linus ArverFeb 29, 2024
  107. Junio C HamanoFeb 29, 2024
  108. Linus ArverFeb 29, 2024
  109. 3/3 test-stdlib: show that git-std-lib is independentCalvin Wan, Feb 22, 2024
  110. Junio C HamanoFeb 22, 2024
  111. Junio C HamanoMar 7, 2024

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