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Re: [PATCH v4] documentation: add tutorial for revision walking

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Aug 14, 2019, 19:18 UTC
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Emily Shaffer <emilyshaffer@google.com> writes:
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>> > I think the tutorial itself is pretty much ready...
>> 
>> A few comments after skimming this round; none of them may be a show
>> stopper, but others may have different opinions.
>>  ...
> Hmmm. It sounds like you're saying:
>
> - This object covers walking objects, which is surprising since it's
>   titled about "revision walks". Revision walks are more about commits
>   ("git log").

Yes, the document does not duplicate what existing docs on "revision walk" API would cover, which is a very good thing, as it is (or at least "feels to be") primarly about walking objects.

> - Using grep on objects doesn't make any sense.

The grep filter works on commit's log messages, and does not even look at other types of objects, so while that point is true, what I was driving at was that skipping commits using grep filter would mean showing trees and blobs related only to the chosen commits, and while it can be explained as such (i.e. "trees and blobs contained only in commits without these strings are excluded"), the practical usefulness of such a "feature" is dubious (here I am imagining the primary practical use of "object walk" is to feed pack-objects).

> - Other filters (like pathspecs) which do make sense for object walks
>   aren't covered.

Yup. For example, "trees and blobs that appear only outside of this directory hierarchy are excluded" would be useful to enumerate objects necessary for a narrow commits (again, to feed pack-objects).

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> - Apply the grep filter to the commit walk, and apply a more interesting
>   object filter to the object walk.
>
> Or,
>
> - Choose a different kind of filter which is interesting when applied to
>   commits alone _and_ all objects.
>
> In the interest of covering more ground with this kind of tutorial, I'd
> lean more towards the former.

Sorry, I do not have enough imagination to cheer for either of these two options---these may be "interesting" in the same way as "trees and blobs contained only in commits without these strings are excluded" enumeration, but I fail to see practical usefulness (i.e. the reason why a user may be tempted to learn how to achieve it).

In any case, that was my personal take and not a strong request to change anything, as I said upfront. The document just gave me an impression that it was teaching coding exercise that may be interesting but of dubious utility.

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  1. documentation: add tutorial for revision walkingEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  2. 00/13 example implementation of revwalk tutorialEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  3. 01/13 walken: add infrastructure for revwalk demoEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  4. 02/13 walken: add usage to enable -hEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  5. 03/13 walken: add placeholder to initialize defaultsEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  6. 04/13 walken: add handler to git_configEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  7. 05/13 walken: configure rev_info and prepare for walkEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  8. 06/13 walken: perform our basic revision walkEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  9. 07/13 walken: filter for authors from gmail addressEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  10. 08/13 walken: demonstrate various topographical sortsEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  11. 09/13 walken: demonstrate reversing a revision walk listEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  12. 10/13 walken: add unfiltered object walk from HEADEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  13. 11/13 walken: add filtered object walkEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  14. Jeff HostetlerJun 7, 2019
  15. Emily ShafferJun 17, 2019
  16. 12/13 walken: count omitted objectsEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  17. 13/13 walken: reverse the object walk orderEmily Shaffer, Jun 7, 2019
  18. Eric SunshineJun 7, 2019
  19. Junio C HamanoJun 10, 2019
  20. Eric SunshineJun 10, 2019
  21. Emily ShafferJun 17, 2019
  22. Eric SunshineJun 19, 2019
  23. Emily ShafferJun 19, 2019
  24. Eric SunshineJun 23, 2019
  25. Junio C HamanoJun 10, 2019
  26. Emily ShafferJun 17, 2019
  27. Junio C HamanoJun 19, 2019
  28. Emily ShafferJun 20, 2019
  29. Josh SteadmonJul 13, 2019
  30. Emily ShafferJul 16, 2019
  31. Junio C HamanoJul 16, 2019
  32. Junio C HamanoJun 10, 2019
  33. Emily ShafferJun 17, 2019
  34. documentation: add tutorial for revision walkingEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  35. 00/13 example implementation of revwalk tutorialEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  36. 01/13 walken: add infrastructure for revwalk demoEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  37. 02/13 walken: add usage to enable -hEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  38. Eric SunshineJun 27, 2019
  39. Emily ShafferJun 27, 2019
  40. Eric SunshineJun 27, 2019
  41. 03/13 walken: add placeholder to initialize defaultsEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  42. 04/13 walken: add handler to git_configEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  43. Eric SunshineJun 27, 2019
  44. Emily ShafferJun 27, 2019
  45. 05/13 walken: configure rev_info and prepare for walkEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  46. Eric SunshineJun 27, 2019
  47. Emily ShafferJun 27, 2019
  48. 06/13 walken: perform our basic revision walkEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  49. Eric SunshineJun 27, 2019
  50. Emily ShafferJun 27, 2019
  51. 07/13 walken: filter for authors from gmail addressEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  52. Eric SunshineJun 27, 2019
  53. Emily ShafferJun 27, 2019
  54. 08/13 walken: demonstrate various topographical sortsEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  55. Eric SunshineJun 27, 2019
  56. Emily ShafferJun 27, 2019
  57. 09/13 walken: demonstrate reversing a revision walk listEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  58. Eric SunshineJun 27, 2019
  59. Emily ShafferJun 27, 2019
  60. 10/13 walken: add unfiltered object walk from HEADEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  61. Eric SunshineJun 27, 2019
  62. Emily ShafferJun 27, 2019
  63. Eric SunshineJun 28, 2019
  64. Emily ShafferJul 1, 2019
  65. 11/13 walken: add filtered object walkEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  66. Eric SunshineJun 27, 2019
  67. Emily ShafferJun 27, 2019
  68. 12/13 walken: count omitted objectsEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  69. Eric SunshineJun 27, 2019
  70. 13/13 walken: reverse the object walk orderEmily Shaffer, Jun 26, 2019
  71. Emily ShafferJun 27, 2019
  72. documentation: add tutorial for revision walkingEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  73. 00/13 example implementation of revwalk tutorialEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  74. 01/13 walken: add infrastructure for revwalk demoEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  75. 02/13 walken: add usage to enable -hEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  76. 03/13 walken: add placeholder to initialize defaultsEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  77. 04/13 walken: add handler to git_configEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  78. 05/13 walken: configure rev_info and prepare for walkEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  79. 06/13 walken: perform our basic revision walkEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  80. 07/13 walken: filter for authors from gmail addressEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  81. 08/13 walken: demonstrate various topographical sortsEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  82. 09/13 walken: demonstrate reversing a revision walk listEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  83. 10/13 walken: add unfiltered object walk from HEADEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  84. 11/13 walken: add filtered object walkEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  85. 12/13 walken: count omitted objectsEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  86. 13/13 walken: reverse the object walk orderEmily Shaffer, Jul 1, 2019
  87. Johannes SchindelinJul 25, 2019
  88. Emily ShafferAug 6, 2019
  89. Johannes SchindelinAug 8, 2019
  90. Josh SteadmonJul 24, 2019
  91. Jonathan TanJul 24, 2019
  92. Emily ShafferAug 6, 2019
  93. documentation: add tutorial for revision walkingEmily Shaffer, Aug 6, 2019
  94. Junio C HamanoAug 7, 2019
  95. Emily ShafferAug 14, 2019
  96. Junio C HamanoAug 14, 2019
  97. documentation: add tutorial for object walkingEmily Shaffer, Oct 10, 2019
  98. Junio C HamanoOct 11, 2019
  99. Emily ShafferOct 11, 2019
  100. SZEDER GáborOct 11, 2019
  101. Emily ShafferOct 11, 2019
  102. documentation: add tutorial for object walkingEmily Shaffer, Oct 11, 2019

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