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Re: [PATCH] push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forward

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Matthieu Moy <matthieu.moy@imag.fr>
Date
Aug 7, 2009, 19:37 UTC
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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
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> Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr> writes:
>
>> 'git push' failing because of non-fast forward is a very common situation,
>> and a beginner does not necessarily understand "fast forward" immediately.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Matthieu Moy <Matthieu.Moy@imag.fr>
>> ---
>> That may be a bit verbose, but I think it's worth it.
>> ...
>> +		if (nonfastforward) {
>> +			printf("Some branch push were rejected due to non-fast forward:\n");
>> +			printf("Merge the remote changes (git pull) before pushing your's\n");
>> +			printf("or use git push --force to discard the remote changes.\n");
>> +		}
>
> Although I think the patch identified the right place to make changes, I
> am not sure about what the help message should say.
>
> If the user lacks understanding of what a fast-forward is, I do not think
> giving two choices that would produce vastly different results

Well, there are different levels of mis-understanding of "fast-forward", and one of them is just a mis-understanding of the wording.

My experience is that many people understand "there are changes over there that you don't have so an explicit merge is needed", but would not necessarily use the wording "fast-forward" for this.

The second line of my message was not only here to point to "git pull", but had also a subliminal message stating that there are remote changes ;-).

> Jokes aside, perhaps we could add "see git-push documentation for details"
> to the above message of yours, and add something like this to the
> documentation.

100% convinced that this section in the doc is a good idea. I'm not totally sure the error message should point to it, because that will make the message 4 lines long instead of 3, so it may start disturbing gurus for whom the whole message is useless.

Right now, I have this in my tree:
  if (nonfastforward) {
  	printf("Some push were rejected because it would not result in a fast forward:\n"
  	       "Merge in the remote changes (using git pull) before pushing yours, or\n"
  	       "use git push --force to discard the remote changes.\n"
  	       "See 'non-fast forward' section of 'git push --help' for details.\n");
  }
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> +Alternatively, you can rebase your change between X and B on top of A,
> +with "git pull --rebase", and push the result back.  The rebase will
> +create a new commit D that builds the change between X and B on top of
> +A.
> +
> +----------------
> +
> +      B   D
> +     /   /
> + ---X---A
> +
> +----------------
> +
> +Again, updating A with this commit will fast-forward and your push will be
> +accepted.

Maybe add something about --force ? I don't like my wording very much, but a first try is this:

Lastly, you can decide that the B shouldn't have existed, and delete it. This is to do with a lot of care, not only because it will discard the changes introduced in B, but also because if B has been pulled by someone else, he will have a view of history inconsistant with the original repository. This is done with the --force option.

-- 
Matthieu
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Message 8 of 48 in “push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forward”
  1. push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forwardMatthieu Moy, Aug 6, 2009
  2. Michael J GruberAug 6, 2009
  3. Matthieu MoyAug 7, 2009
  4. Michael J GruberAug 7, 2009
  5. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2009
  6. Re: push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forwardNicolas Sebrecht, Aug 6, 2009
  7. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2009
  8. Matthieu MoyAug 7, 2009
  9. Junio C HamanoAug 7, 2009
  10. Matthieu MoyAug 7, 2009
  11. push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forwardMatthieu Moy, Aug 8, 2009
  12. Teemu LikonenAug 8, 2009
  13. Matthieu MoyAug 8, 2009
  14. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2009
  15. Re: push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forwardNicolas Sebrecht, Aug 8, 2009
  16. Matthieu MoyAug 9, 2009
  17. Junio C HamanoAug 9, 2009
  18. Matthieu MoyAug 10, 2009
  19. Junio C HamanoAug 10, 2009
  20. Matthieu MoyAug 10, 2009
  21. Nanako ShiraishiAug 11, 2009
  22. 0/4 make helpful messages optionalJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  23. 1/4 push: fix english in non-fast-forward messageJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  24. 2/4 push: re-flow non-fast-forward messageJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  25. 3/4 push: make non-fast-forward help message configurableJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  26. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2009
  27. Jeff KingSep 6, 2009
  28. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2009
  29. Jeff KingSep 6, 2009
  30. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2009
  31. Sverre RabbelierSep 6, 2009
  32. Nanako ShiraishiSep 7, 2009
  33. Johannes SixtSep 7, 2009
  34. Mike HommeySep 7, 2009
  35. Jeff KingSep 7, 2009
  36. Matthieu MoySep 7, 2009
  37. Jeff KingSep 7, 2009
  38. Matthieu MoySep 7, 2009
  39. Uri OkrentSep 8, 2009
  40. Jeff KingSep 9, 2009
  41. 0/2 configurable advice messagesJeff King, Sep 9, 2009
  42. 1/2 push: make non-fast-forward help message configurableJeff King, Sep 9, 2009
  43. Junio C HamanoSep 9, 2009
  44. Jeff KingSep 9, 2009
  45. Junio C HamanoSep 9, 2009
  46. 2/2 status: make "how to stage" messages optionalJeff King, Sep 9, 2009
  47. 4/4 status: make "how to stage" messages optionalJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  48. Matthieu MoySep 6, 2009

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