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Re: [PATCH 3/4] push: make non-fast-forward help message configurable

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Sep 6, 2009, 07:09 UTC
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Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> Probably "messages" is too vague a term to use in the code and config.
> Maybe "advice.*"?

I hate to start off with a digression, but one expression from Japanese I have long been frustrated with, because I cannot find a good counterpart in English, is "大きなお世話".

J-E dictionaries often translate this phrase as "none of your business", and it indeed is meant to be thrown at somebody who gives an unsolicited and an unwanted advice to you, but at the same time it strongly implies that the reason why such an advice is unwanted is because you very well knows the issue and does not _need_ (not want) the help on the topic at all. It is not about _who_ gives the unwanted advice (which I think the expression "none of YOUR business" talks about---if the same advice came from somebody else, it might be appreciated), but it is all about on what topic the advice is about, and you feel that you know about the topic very well yourself and do not need any advice from anybody.

Enough digression.

I have always felt that many of the messages we have added since the "newbie friendliness" drive around 1.3.0 deserve to be labeled with the expression 大きなお世話.

Of course, "unsolicited-unneeded-advice.*" is too long as a variable name, but I personally would very much welcome changes along this line and I think "advice.*" is a good name for the category.

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Message 26 of 48 in “push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forward”
  1. push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forwardMatthieu Moy, Aug 6, 2009
  2. Michael J GruberAug 6, 2009
  3. Matthieu MoyAug 7, 2009
  4. Michael J GruberAug 7, 2009
  5. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2009
  6. Re: push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forwardNicolas Sebrecht, Aug 6, 2009
  7. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2009
  8. Matthieu MoyAug 7, 2009
  9. Junio C HamanoAug 7, 2009
  10. Matthieu MoyAug 7, 2009
  11. push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forwardMatthieu Moy, Aug 8, 2009
  12. Teemu LikonenAug 8, 2009
  13. Matthieu MoyAug 8, 2009
  14. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2009
  15. Re: push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forwardNicolas Sebrecht, Aug 8, 2009
  16. Matthieu MoyAug 9, 2009
  17. Junio C HamanoAug 9, 2009
  18. Matthieu MoyAug 10, 2009
  19. Junio C HamanoAug 10, 2009
  20. Matthieu MoyAug 10, 2009
  21. Nanako ShiraishiAug 11, 2009
  22. 0/4 make helpful messages optionalJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  23. 1/4 push: fix english in non-fast-forward messageJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  24. 2/4 push: re-flow non-fast-forward messageJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  25. 3/4 push: make non-fast-forward help message configurableJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  26. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2009
  27. Jeff KingSep 6, 2009
  28. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2009
  29. Jeff KingSep 6, 2009
  30. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2009
  31. Sverre RabbelierSep 6, 2009
  32. Nanako ShiraishiSep 7, 2009
  33. Johannes SixtSep 7, 2009
  34. Mike HommeySep 7, 2009
  35. Jeff KingSep 7, 2009
  36. Matthieu MoySep 7, 2009
  37. Jeff KingSep 7, 2009
  38. Matthieu MoySep 7, 2009
  39. Uri OkrentSep 8, 2009
  40. Jeff KingSep 9, 2009
  41. 0/2 configurable advice messagesJeff King, Sep 9, 2009
  42. 1/2 push: make non-fast-forward help message configurableJeff King, Sep 9, 2009
  43. Junio C HamanoSep 9, 2009
  44. Jeff KingSep 9, 2009
  45. Junio C HamanoSep 9, 2009
  46. 2/2 status: make "how to stage" messages optionalJeff King, Sep 9, 2009
  47. 4/4 status: make "how to stage" messages optionalJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  48. Matthieu MoySep 6, 2009

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