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Re: [PATCH v2] push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forward

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Matthieu Moy <matthieu.moy@imag.fr>
Date
Aug 9, 2009, 18:35 UTC
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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
> Instead of saying "Merge in", we could say "Integrate" to cover both
> practices.
I'm fine with both. I consider rebasing as a kind of merging, but ...
> I also happen to think that the mention of --force falls into the
> same category as "try shooting and then study if it hurgs".
Depending on the context. In the case of

git push git commit --amend git push

Pointing the user to 'git pull' is probably the thing which hurts the most. And to me, the name --force already means "yes, I know what I'm doing". My proposal was "[...] use git push --force to discard the remote changes." which warns enough about the danger.

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> So how about phrasing it like this?
>
>     Non-fast forward pushes were rejected because you would discard remote
>     changes you have not seen.  Integrate them with your changes and then
>     push again. See 'non-fast forward' section of 'git push --help'.

I thing not pointing to 'git pull' in the message really defeats the purpose of the patch. I don't find an error message only telling me "go read the doc as you should have done from the beginning" really helps.

-- 
Matthieu
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Message 16 of 48 in “push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forward”
  1. push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forwardMatthieu Moy, Aug 6, 2009
  2. Michael J GruberAug 6, 2009
  3. Matthieu MoyAug 7, 2009
  4. Michael J GruberAug 7, 2009
  5. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2009
  6. Re: push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forwardNicolas Sebrecht, Aug 6, 2009
  7. Junio C HamanoAug 6, 2009
  8. Matthieu MoyAug 7, 2009
  9. Junio C HamanoAug 7, 2009
  10. Matthieu MoyAug 7, 2009
  11. push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forwardMatthieu Moy, Aug 8, 2009
  12. Teemu LikonenAug 8, 2009
  13. Matthieu MoyAug 8, 2009
  14. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2009
  15. Re: push: point to 'git pull' and 'git push --force' in case of non-fast forwardNicolas Sebrecht, Aug 8, 2009
  16. Matthieu MoyAug 9, 2009
  17. Junio C HamanoAug 9, 2009
  18. Matthieu MoyAug 10, 2009
  19. Junio C HamanoAug 10, 2009
  20. Matthieu MoyAug 10, 2009
  21. Nanako ShiraishiAug 11, 2009
  22. 0/4 make helpful messages optionalJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  23. 1/4 push: fix english in non-fast-forward messageJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  24. 2/4 push: re-flow non-fast-forward messageJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  25. 3/4 push: make non-fast-forward help message configurableJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  26. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2009
  27. Jeff KingSep 6, 2009
  28. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2009
  29. Jeff KingSep 6, 2009
  30. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2009
  31. Sverre RabbelierSep 6, 2009
  32. Nanako ShiraishiSep 7, 2009
  33. Johannes SixtSep 7, 2009
  34. Mike HommeySep 7, 2009
  35. Jeff KingSep 7, 2009
  36. Matthieu MoySep 7, 2009
  37. Jeff KingSep 7, 2009
  38. Matthieu MoySep 7, 2009
  39. Uri OkrentSep 8, 2009
  40. Jeff KingSep 9, 2009
  41. 0/2 configurable advice messagesJeff King, Sep 9, 2009
  42. 1/2 push: make non-fast-forward help message configurableJeff King, Sep 9, 2009
  43. Junio C HamanoSep 9, 2009
  44. Jeff KingSep 9, 2009
  45. Junio C HamanoSep 9, 2009
  46. 2/2 status: make "how to stage" messages optionalJeff King, Sep 9, 2009
  47. 4/4 status: make "how to stage" messages optionalJeff King, Sep 6, 2009
  48. Matthieu MoySep 6, 2009

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