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Re: gitk : french translation

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Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>
Date
Nov 9, 2009, 01:30 UTC
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Matthieu Moy wrote:
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> Nicolas Sebrecht <nicolas.s.dev@gmx.fr> writes:
> 
> >> > - make some consistency changes
> >> >  * s/diff/différences/
> >> >  * s/patch/correctif/ everywhere
> >
> > I disagree here. Words like "diff", "commit", "patch", etc should be
> > kept as is. Translation of those terms make things harder for the users.
> 
> Metoo.
> 
> One day or another, the user will have to face the words "diff",
> "commit" and "patch" even in a 100% french-speaking context (for
> example when requesting help and someone answering "open a terminal
> and type 'git commit --whatever'" or so).
> 
> Matching the command-line concepts and the GUI concepts is made really
> hard by over-translating.

Striking a good balance is the key. Not translating enough might simply look "cheap" to a new user who was not exposed to the concepts in the first place.

It is not like if we were facing issues like:
"Made in Turkey" -> "Fait en dinde"
"arm rest and pad assembly" -> "armer le repos et rembourer l'assemblée"

It's like those stu**d people who decided that "email" was too hard to translate. So they declared that "email" was "imél" in French. Fortunately some non European people came up with a refreshing idea and translated "email" into "courriel" instead. And with a step back, you must admit that "courriel" is so much clearer and more descriptive semantically.

Therefore I think that it is a good thing to _try_ to translate stuff appropriately. but this is often much harder than it may seem.

> (and BTW, "correctif" is not a very good translation of "patch", since
> a patch is not necessarilly a correction of something).
In this case I think "retouche" would be a better choice.
Nicolas
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Message 6 of 33 in “gitk : french translation”
  1. Emmanuel TrillaudNov 6, 2009
  2. Thomas MoulardNov 6, 2009
  3. Emmanuel TrillaudNov 6, 2009
  4. Nicolas SebrechtNov 7, 2009
  5. Matthieu MoyNov 8, 2009
  6. Nicolas PitreNov 9, 2009
  7. [OT] Re: gitk : french translationMatthieu Moy, Nov 9, 2009
  8. Maximilien NoalNov 9, 2009
  9. Emmanuel TrillaudNov 8, 2009
  10. Nicolas SebrechtNov 8, 2009
  11. Maximilien NoalNov 8, 2009
  12. Maximilien NoalNov 8, 2009
  13. Nicolas SebrechtNov 9, 2009
  14. Emmanuel TrillaudNov 10, 2009
  15. Nicolas SebrechtNov 10, 2009
  16. Nicolas SebrechtNov 11, 2009
  17. Thomas MoulardNov 11, 2009
  18. Nicolas SebrechtNov 11, 2009
  19. Emmanuel TrillaudNov 11, 2009
  20. Emmanuel TrillaudNov 19, 2009
  21. Emmanuel TrillaudNov 19, 2009
  22. [PATCHv4] gitk french translationEmmanuel Trillaud, Nov 19, 2009
  23. [PATCHv4] Re: gitk french translationNicolas Sebrecht, Nov 19, 2009
  24. Emmanuel TrillaudNov 20, 2009
  25. Emmanuel TrillaudDec 2, 2009
  26. Emmanuel TrillaudNov 10, 2009
  27. Nicolas SebrechtNov 10, 2009
  28. Emmanuel TrillaudNov 11, 2009
  29. french translation of gitkNicolas Sebrecht, Dec 29, 2009
  30. Emmanuel TrillaudJan 8, 2010
  31. Paul MackerrasJan 12, 2010
  32. Emmanuel TrillaudJan 12, 2010
  33. Emmanuel TrillaudJan 28, 2010

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