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Re: [Administrivia] On ruby and contrib/

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Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Date
Jun 9, 2013, 03:07 UTC
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Hi Duy,
On Sat, 8 Jun 2013, Duy Nguyen wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Johannes Schindelin
> <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > On Thu, 6 Jun 2013, Greg Troxel wrote:
> >
> >> As one of the people who helps maintain git packages in pkgsrc, my
> >> initial reaction is negative to adding a ruby dependency.
> >
> > My initial reaction, too. It was hard enough to get Perl included with Git
> > for Windows (because of that pesky Subversion dependency).
> >
> > As you can see from the commit history, I was the primary force behind
> > trying to get everything "core" in Git away from requiring scripting
> > languages (I think it is an awesome thing to provide APIs for as many
> > languages as possible, but a not-so-cool thing to use more than one
> > language in the core code). It does not seem that anybody picked up that
> > task when I left, though.
> 
> Nobody seems to mention it yet. There's another reason behind the C
> rewrite effort: fork is costly on Windows. The C rewrite allows us to
> run with one process (most of the time). This applies for shell, perl
> and even ruby scripts because libgit.a is never meant to be used
> outside git.c context (unlike libgit2). In this regard, ruby is just
> as bad as currently supported non-C languages.

I think you should have said "on Windows" when you said "fork is costly". Oh wait, you did.

It seems that at least some people participating in this discussion are not overly keen on supporting the platform that -- according to statistics, i.e. facts -- is the most prevalent.

I am glad that Junio still seems to be interested in giving us poor folks trying to make the Git experience on Windows a less sucky one enough credit, even if we only got a little over 900 commits into git.git. But that does not count because the commits are older than one year. That makes them useless to some people, apparently.

Hopefully Junio will have more mercy on us poor Windows folks than others would, Dscho

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