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Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] replay: offer an option to linearize the commit topology

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Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Date
Jun 30, 2026, 09:44 UTC
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Hi Patrick & Toon,
On Tue, 30 Jun 2026, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
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> On Fri, Jun 26, 2026 at 07:36:31AM +0200, Toon Claes wrote:
> > Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
> > 
> > > git-rebase(1) essentially knows about three different modes:
> > >
> > >   - "--no-rebase-merges", which is the default and maps to your
> > >     "--linearize".
> > >
> > >   - "--rebase-merges", which by default doesn't rebase cousins by using
> > >     "--ancestry-path" internally.
> > >
> > >   - "--rebase-merges=rebase-cousins", which doesn't pass the above
> > >     option.
> > >
> > > So it's not a simple boolean there, which makes me wonder whether we
> > > should mirror the same interface so that all of git-rebase(1)'s modes
> > > can be represented, as well.
> > 
> > That's a valid question, although I don't know a good answer to that.
> > 
> > Basically you're asking for what the command line options will look
> > like? Allow me to think out loud.
> > 
> > In this series I'm adding --linearize to git-replay(1). As mentioned, I
> > don't think it makes sense to add it to git-history(1) as well. Without
> > this option, the process aborts when it encounters a merge.
> > 
> > Dscho sent a patch series to properly replay (2-way) merges. I think
> > this should become the default for both git-replay(1) and
> > git-history(1).
> > 
> > But then, do we want to have an option that brings back the current
> > behavior of aborting at merges? Maybe with --no-merges?
> 
> I think that would be a sensible option to have.

I also think that we'll need a way to abort at merges because linearizing commits is a relatively common operation.

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> > Then there's the option of rebasing cousins left. That's something that
> > isn't covered by Dscho's series yet. Maybe --replay-cousins?
> > 
> > To reiterate what the final design could look like:
> > 
> >  * <nothing>: replay merges preserving topology.
> >  * "--linearize": flattens merges (only git-replay(1)).
> >  * "--no-merges": dies when the process tries to replay a merge.
> >  * "--replay-cousins": does what --rebase-merges=rebase-cousins does.
> 
> Right. And if we tried to be consistent with git-rebase(1), then this
> could be done as:
> 
>   - "--rebase-merges" to replay merges preserving topology, which is the
>     default once we support replaying them.
> 
>   - "--no-rebase-merges" to flatten commits.
> 
>   - "--rebase-merges=abort" to explicitly die when seeing merges.
> 
>   - "--rebase-merges=rebase-cousins"

The `git rebase` options are unlikely to be a good precedent to follow. Their history is full of usability warts, and in hindsight, I would really have loved a more steady hand in developing and maintaining a good UX. The fact alone that this is called `rebase` speaks volumes about how hostile of a user experience this command surfaces.

In any case, these options should use the much more natural term "replay" instead of "rebase".

But then: you said that `--no-rebase-merges` should flatten the commits? That's not what this option name conveys to me; It would convey to me that the operation would _abort_ on encountering merge commits.

In other words, I do think that the --linearize option is conceptually quite distinct from the different modes in which merge commits could be handled. As such, this option should probably not be conflated with the various `--replay-merges=<mode>` modes.

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> > Now, all these options are (I think) mutually exclusive, so we could
> > consider an option "--replay-merges=<mode>", but personally I find
> > "--<option>=<value>" arguments harder to use than specifying separate
> > options.
> > 
> > I think I'm avoiding your question, because the design of the command
> > line parameters doesn't need tot 1-on-1 correlate to the internal
> > datastructure. And I agree the mode isn't a boolean, but does that mean
> > we want to use an enum internally? Well, I don't know. And I also don't
> > think that matters right now. Code is easy to change, I think the
> > command line options should be designed with the future in mind, which I
> > believe we do with "--linearize".
> > 
> > Sorry for this long-winded rambling, but bottom line I think it's fine
> > to add --linearize and in the future add more options and see how the
> > code should evolve to support those.
> 
> Hm, I dunno. You basically reasoned that we potentially want to have all
> of the same options that git-rebase(1)'s "--rebase-merges=" already
> supports. So that begs the question why we need to reinvent the wheel
> then and not just use the same syntax.

I would strongly caution against repeating the same UX mistakes as `git rebase` has to live with.

The _functionality_, yes, I think that'd be good to have in `git replay`. But we can surface that functionality in much better ways, with option names that reflect the concepts much more intuitively.

Ciao, Johannes

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> Note that I'm not arguing that we should support all of these options
> now. I'm merely arguing that we should try to be consistent, unless
> there is a good argument not to do that. I'm fine with the interface if
> there indeed is a good argument, but if so we should document why we
> think that the current interface in git-rebase(1) is not a good fit for
> this command.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
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  1. 0/3 Teach git-replay(1) to linearize merge commitsToon Claes, Jun 8, 2026
  2. 1/3 replay: refactor enum replay_mode into a boolToon Claes, Jun 8, 2026
  3. 2/3 replay: add helper to put entry into mapped_commitsToon Claes, Jun 8, 2026
  4. 3/3 replay: offer an option to linearize the commit topologyToon Claes, Jun 8, 2026
  5. Junio C HamanoJun 8, 2026
  6. Toon ClaesJun 10, 2026
  7. 0/3 Teach git-replay(1) to linearize merge commitsToon Claes, Jun 10, 2026
  8. 1/3 replay: refactor enum replay_mode into a boolToon Claes, Jun 10, 2026
  9. 2/3 replay: add helper to put entry into mapped_commitsToon Claes, Jun 10, 2026
  10. 3/3 replay: offer an option to linearize the commit topologyToon Claes, Jun 10, 2026
  11. Junio C HamanoJun 10, 2026
  12. Justin ToblerJun 11, 2026
  13. Toon ClaesJun 12, 2026
  14. Elijah NewrenJun 14, 2026
  15. Toon ClaesJun 16, 2026
  16. Toon ClaesJun 16, 2026
  17. 0/3 Teach git-replay(1) to linearize merge commitsToon Claes, Jun 16, 2026
  18. 1/3 replay: refactor enum replay_mode into a boolToon Claes, Jun 16, 2026
  19. 2/3 replay: add helper to put entry into mapped_commitsToon Claes, Jun 16, 2026
  20. 3/3 replay: offer an option to linearize the commit topologyToon Claes, Jun 16, 2026
  21. 0/3 Teach git-replay(1) to linearize merge commitsToon Claes, Jun 22, 2026
  22. 1/3 replay: refactor enum replay_mode into a boolToon Claes, Jun 22, 2026
  23. 2/3 replay: add helper to put entry into mapped_commitsToon Claes, Jun 22, 2026
  24. 3/3 replay: offer an option to linearize the commit topologyToon Claes, Jun 22, 2026
  25. Patrick SteinhardtJun 22, 2026
  26. Patrick SteinhardtJun 22, 2026
  27. Patrick SteinhardtJun 22, 2026
  28. Junio C HamanoJun 22, 2026
  29. Toon ClaesJun 24, 2026
  30. Toon ClaesJun 26, 2026
  31. 0/3 Teach git-replay(1) to linearize merge commitsToon Claes, Jun 26, 2026
  32. 1/3 replay: add helper to put entry into mapped_commitsToon Claes, Jun 26, 2026
  33. 2/3 replay: better explain how pick_regular_commit() picks a baseToon Claes, Jun 26, 2026
  34. 3/3 replay: offer an option to linearize the commit topologyToon Claes, Jun 26, 2026
  35. Junio C HamanoJun 26, 2026
  36. Junio C HamanoJun 26, 2026
  37. Phillip WoodJun 27, 2026
  38. Johannes SchindelinJun 28, 2026
  39. Patrick SteinhardtJun 29, 2026
  40. Johannes SchindelinJun 30, 2026
  41. Patrick SteinhardtJun 30, 2026
  42. Toon ClaesJun 30, 2026
  43. Toon ClaesJul 1, 2026
  44. 0/3 Teach git-replay(1) to linearize merge commitsToon Claes, Jul 2, 2026
  45. 1/3 replay: add helper to put entry into replayed_commitsToon Claes, Jul 2, 2026
  46. 2/3 replay: resolve the replay base outside pick_regular_commit()Toon Claes, Jul 2, 2026
  47. 3/3 replay: offer an option to linearize the commit topologyToon Claes, Jul 2, 2026
  48. Junio C HamanoJul 3, 2026
  49. Toon ClaesJul 7, 2026
  50. 0/3 Teach git-replay(1) to linearize merge commitsToon Claes, Jul 7, 2026
  51. 1/3 replay: add helper to put entry into replayed_commitsToon Claes, Jul 7, 2026
  52. 2/3 replay: resolve the replay base outside pick_regular_commit()Toon Claes, Jul 7, 2026
  53. 3/3 replay: offer an option to linearize the commit topologyToon Claes, Jul 7, 2026
  54. Junio C HamanoJul 7, 2026
  55. Junio C HamanoJul 8, 2026
  56. Elijah NewrenJul 10, 2026
  57. Junio C HamanoJul 13, 2026
  58. Elijah NewrenJul 15, 2026
  59. Junio C HamanoJul 15, 2026
  60. Elijah NewrenJul 16, 2026
  61. Junio C HamanoJul 17, 2026
  62. Toon ClaesJul 27, 2026
  63. 0/3 Teach git-replay(1) to linearize merge commitsToon Claes, Jul 28, 2026
  64. 1/3 replay: add helper to put entry into replayed_commitsToon Claes, Jul 28, 2026
  65. 2/3 replay: resolve the replay base outside pick_regular_commit()Toon Claes, Jul 28, 2026
  66. 3/3 replay: offer an option to linearize the commit topologyToon Claes, Jul 28, 2026
  67. Junio C HamanoJul 28, 2026
  68. Justin ToblerAug 7, 2026
  69. Elijah NewrenAug 8, 2026
  70. Toon ClaesAug 31, 2026
  71. 0/3 Teach git-replay(1) to linearize merge commitsToon Claes, Aug 31, 2026
  72. 1/3 replay: add helper to put entry into replayed_commitsToon Claes, Aug 31, 2026
  73. 2/3 replay: resolve the replay base outside pick_regular_commit()Toon Claes, Aug 31, 2026
  74. 3/3 replay: offer an option to linearize the commit topologyToon Claes, Aug 31, 2026
  75. Elijah NewrenSep 1, 2026

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