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Re: [RFC PATCH 12/12] commit-graph: update design document

From
Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
Date
Apr 20, 2018, 19:10 UTC
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<86r2n9d78l.fsf@gmail.com>
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<20180417181028.198397-13-dstolee@microsoft.com>
Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com> writes:
> The commit-graph feature is now integrated with 'fsck' and 'gc',
> so remove those items from the "Future Work" section of the
> commit-graph design document.
See comments below, but this looks good to me.

What is missing from the "Future Work" section (and which was somewhat implied by now removed "When this feature stabilizes enough to recommend to most users") is safety against history [view] changing features: git-replace, shallow clone and grafts file. I wrote about this in "Re: [PATCH v8 04/14] graph: add commit graph design document" https://public-inbox.org/git/86vacsjdcg.fsf@gmail.com/

JN> The problem in my opinion lies in different direction, namely that JN> commit grafts can change, changing the view of the history. If we want JN> commit-graph file to follow user-visible view of the history of the JN> project, it needs to respect current version of commit grafts - but what JN> if commit grafts changed since commit-graph file was generated? JN> JN> Actually, there are currently three ways to affect the view of the JN> history: JN> JN> a. legacy commit grafts mechanism; it was first, but it is not safe, JN> cannot be transferred on fetch / push, and is now deprecated. JN> JN> b. shallow clones, which are kind of specialized and limited grafts; JN> they used to limit available functionality, but restrictions are JN> being lifted (or perhaps even got lifted) JN> JN> c. git-replace mechanism, where we can create an "overlay" of any JN> object, and is intended to be among others replacement for commit JN> grafts; safe, transferable, can be turned off with "git JN> --no-replace-objects <command>" JN> JN> All those can change; some more likely than others. The problem is if JN> they change between writing commit-graph file (respecting old view of JN> the history) and reading it (where we expect to see the new view). JN> JN> a. grafts file can change: lines can be added, removed or changed JN> JN> b. shallow clones can be deepened or shortened, or even make JN> not shallow JN> JN> c. new replacements can be added, old removed, and existing edited JN> JN> JN> There are, as far as I can see, two ways of handling the issue of Git JN> features that can change the view of the project's history, namely: JN> JN> * Disable commit-graph reading when any of this features are used, and JN> always write full graph info. JN> JN> This may not matter much for shallow clones, where commit count JN> should be small anyway, but when using git-replace to stitch together JN> current repository with historical one, commit-graph would be JN> certainly useful. Also, git-replace does not need to change history. JN> JN> On the other hand I think it is the easier solution. JN> JN> Or JN> JN> * Detect somehow that the view of the history changed, and invalidate JN> commit-graph (perhaps even automatically regenerate it). JN> JN> For shallow clone changes I think one can still use the old JN> commit-graph file to generate the new one. For other cases, the JN> metadata is simple to modify, but indices such as generation number JN> would need to be at least partially calculated anew.

Note that in all cases one can simply discard generation number information (treating it as if it was ZERO), and use commit-graph as values before applying history-changing feature: replacements, grafts or shallow.

Well, at least for shallow you can do that for generation numbers: using grafts (deprecated) or replacements to join repository with historical one would mean that we are no longer have commit-graph transitively closed under reachability.

Show 17 quoted lines
>
> Signed-off-by: Derrick Stolee <dstolee@microsoft.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/technical/commit-graph.txt | 9 ---------
>  1 file changed, 9 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/technical/commit-graph.txt b/Documentation/technical/commit-graph.txt
> index d9f2713efa..d04657b781 100644
> --- a/Documentation/technical/commit-graph.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/technical/commit-graph.txt
> @@ -118,9 +118,6 @@ Future Work
>  - The commit graph feature currently does not honor commit grafts. This can
>    be remedied by duplicating or refactoring the current graft logic.
>  
> -- The 'commit-graph' subcommand does not have a "verify" mode that is
> -  necessary for integration with fsck.
> -
All right (though "verify" mode is actually done via "check" command).
Show 13 quoted lines
>  - After computing and storing generation numbers, we must make graph
>    walks aware of generation numbers to gain the performance benefits they
>    enable. This will mostly be accomplished by swapping a commit-date-ordered
> @@ -142,12 +139,6 @@ Future Work
>    such as "ensure_tree_loaded(commit)" that fully loads a tree before
>    using commit->tree.
>  
> -- The current design uses the 'commit-graph' subcommand to generate the graph.
> -  When this feature stabilizes enough to recommend to most users, we should
> -  add automatic graph writes to common operations that create many commits.
> -  For example, one could compute a graph on 'clone', 'fetch', or 'repack'
> -  commands.
> -

I'm not sure if this paragraph should be deleted as a whole; it depends on whether we decide that using git-gc to do automatic graph writes is enough (git-gc should be ran automatically by git if we get many new objects anyway, so this gives us almost "compute a graph on 'clone', 'fetch', or 'repack'").

>  - A server could provide a commit graph file as part of the network protocol
>    to avoid extra calculations by clients. This feature is only of benefit if
>    the user is willing to trust the file, because verifying the file is correct
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Message 12 of 149 in “Integrate commit-graph into 'fsck' and 'gc'”
  1. 00/12 Integrate commit-graph into 'fsck' and 'gc'Derrick Stolee, Apr 17, 2018
  2. 01/12 fixup! commit-graph: always load commit-graph informationDerrick Stolee, Apr 17, 2018
  3. 04/12 commit-graph: parse commit from chosen graphDerrick Stolee, Apr 17, 2018
  4. Jakub NarebskiApr 19, 2018
  5. 06/12 commit: force commit to parse from object databaseDerrick Stolee, Apr 17, 2018
  6. Jakub NarebskiApr 20, 2018
  7. 07/12 commit-graph: load a root tree from specific graphDerrick Stolee, Apr 17, 2018
  8. Jakub NarebskiApr 20, 2018
  9. 10/12 commit-graph: add '--reachable' optionDerrick Stolee, Apr 17, 2018
  10. Jakub NarebskiApr 20, 2018
  11. 12/12 commit-graph: update design documentDerrick Stolee, Apr 17, 2018
  12. Jakub NarebskiApr 20, 2018
  13. 11/12 gc: automatically write commit-graph filesDerrick Stolee, Apr 17, 2018
  14. Jakub NarebskiApr 20, 2018
  15. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 20, 2018
  16. 09/12 fsck: check commit-graphDerrick Stolee, Apr 17, 2018
  17. Jakub NarebskiApr 20, 2018
  18. 08/12 commit-graph: verify commit contents against odbDerrick Stolee, Apr 17, 2018
  19. Jakub NarebskiApr 20, 2018
  20. 02/12 commit-graph: add 'check' subcommandDerrick Stolee, Apr 17, 2018
  21. Jakub NarebskiApr 19, 2018
  22. 03/12 commit-graph: check file header informationDerrick Stolee, Apr 17, 2018
  23. Jakub NarebskiApr 19, 2018
  24. 05/12 commit-graph: check fanout and lookup tableDerrick Stolee, Apr 17, 2018
  25. Jakub NarebskiApr 20, 2018
  26. Derrick StoleeApr 17, 2018
  27. 00/12 Integrate commit-graph into fsck, gc, and fetchDerrick Stolee, May 10, 2018
  28. 01/12 commit-graph: add 'verify' subcommandDerrick Stolee, May 10, 2018
  29. Martin ÅgrenMay 10, 2018
  30. 02/12 commit-graph: verify file header informationDerrick Stolee, May 10, 2018
  31. Martin ÅgrenMay 10, 2018
  32. 04/12 commit-graph: verify fanout and lookup tableDerrick Stolee, May 10, 2018
  33. Martin ÅgrenMay 10, 2018
  34. Derrick StoleeMay 11, 2018
  35. 06/12 commit-graph: load a root tree from specific graphDerrick Stolee, May 10, 2018
  36. 08/12 fsck: verify commit-graphDerrick Stolee, May 10, 2018
  37. 12/12 commit-graph: update design documentDerrick Stolee, May 10, 2018
  38. 11/12 fetch: compute commit-graph by defaultDerrick Stolee, May 10, 2018
  39. 07/12 commit-graph: verify commit contents against odbDerrick Stolee, May 10, 2018
  40. 09/12 commit-graph: add '--reachable' optionDerrick Stolee, May 10, 2018
  41. 10/12 gc: automatically write commit-graph filesDerrick Stolee, May 10, 2018
  42. 05/12 commit: force commit to parse from object databaseDerrick Stolee, May 10, 2018
  43. 03/12 commit-graph: parse commit from chosen graphDerrick Stolee, May 10, 2018
  44. Martin ÅgrenMay 10, 2018
  45. Stefan BellerMay 10, 2018
  46. Derrick StoleeMay 11, 2018
  47. Martin ÅgrenMay 11, 2018
  48. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 10, 2018
  49. Derrick StoleeMay 11, 2018
  50. 00/12 Integrate commit-graph into fsck and gcDerrick Stolee, May 11, 2018
  51. 02/12 commit-graph: verify file header informationDerrick Stolee, May 11, 2018
  52. Martin ÅgrenMay 12, 2018
  53. Derrick StoleeMay 14, 2018
  54. Jakub NarebskiMay 20, 2018
  55. 01/12 commit-graph: add 'verify' subcommandDerrick Stolee, May 11, 2018
  56. Martin ÅgrenMay 12, 2018
  57. Derrick StoleeMay 14, 2018
  58. Jakub NarebskiMay 20, 2018
  59. 03/12 commit-graph: test that 'verify' finds corruptionDerrick Stolee, May 11, 2018
  60. Martin ÅgrenMay 12, 2018
  61. Jakub NarebskiMay 21, 2018
  62. Derrick StoleeMay 24, 2018
  63. 04/12 commit-graph: parse commit from chosen graphDerrick Stolee, May 11, 2018
  64. Martin ÅgrenMay 12, 2018
  65. 05/12 commit-graph: verify fanout and lookup tableDerrick Stolee, May 11, 2018
  66. 06/12 commit: force commit to parse from object databaseDerrick Stolee, May 11, 2018
  67. Martin ÅgrenMay 12, 2018
  68. 09/12 fsck: verify commit-graphDerrick Stolee, May 11, 2018
  69. Martin ÅgrenMay 17, 2018
  70. 11/12 gc: automatically write commit-graph filesDerrick Stolee, May 11, 2018
  71. Martin ÅgrenMay 17, 2018
  72. 12/12 commit-graph: update design documentDerrick Stolee, May 11, 2018
  73. 07/12 commit-graph: load a root tree from specific graphDerrick Stolee, May 11, 2018
  74. Martin ÅgrenMay 12, 2018
  75. 08/12 commit-graph: verify commit contents against odbDerrick Stolee, May 11, 2018
  76. Martin ÅgrenMay 12, 2018
  77. Derrick StoleeMay 14, 2018
  78. Martin ÅgrenMay 15, 2018
  79. 10/12 commit-graph: add '--reachable' optionDerrick Stolee, May 11, 2018
  80. Martin ÅgrenMay 17, 2018
  81. 00/20 Integrate commit-graph into 'fsck' and 'gc'Derrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  82. 01/20 commit-graph: UNLEAK before die()Derrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  83. Stefan BellerMay 24, 2018
  84. Derrick StoleeMay 25, 2018
  85. 04/20 commit: force commit to parse from object databaseDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  86. Jakub NarebskiMay 27, 2018
  87. 03/20 commit-graph: parse commit from chosen graphDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  88. Jakub NarebskiMay 27, 2018
  89. Derrick StoleeMay 29, 2018
  90. 06/20 commit-graph: add 'verify' subcommandDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  91. Jakub NarebskiMay 27, 2018
  92. Derrick StoleeMay 30, 2018
  93. Jakub NarebskiJun 2, 2018
  94. Derrick StoleeJun 4, 2018
  95. 07/20 commit-graph: verify catches corrupt signatureDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  96. Jakub NarebskiMay 28, 2018
  97. Derrick StoleeMay 29, 2018
  98. Jakub NarebskiJun 2, 2018
  99. 05/20 commit-graph: load a root tree from specific graphDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  100. Jakub NarebskiMay 27, 2018
  101. 08/20 commit-graph: verify required chunks are presentDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  102. Jakub NarebskiMay 28, 2018
  103. 02/20 commit-graph: fix GRAPH_MIN_SIZEDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  104. Jakub NarebskiMay 26, 2018
  105. brian m. carlsonMay 26, 2018
  106. Jakub NarebskiJun 2, 2018
  107. 09/20 commit-graph: verify corrupt OID fanout and lookupDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  108. Jakub NarebskiMay 30, 2018
  109. Derrick StoleeMay 30, 2018
  110. Duy NguyenJun 2, 2018
  111. Derrick StoleeJun 4, 2018
  112. Duy NguyenJun 4, 2018
  113. 10/20 commit-graph: verify objects existDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  114. Jakub NarebskiMay 30, 2018
  115. Derrick StoleeMay 31, 2018
  116. 11/20 commit-graph: verify root tree OIDsDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  117. Jakub NarebskiMay 30, 2018
  118. Derrick StoleeMay 31, 2018
  119. Jakub NarebskiJun 2, 2018
  120. 12/20 commit-graph: verify parent listDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  121. Jakub NarebskiJun 1, 2018
  122. 14/20 commit-graph: verify commit dateDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  123. Jakub NarebskiJun 2, 2018
  124. 16/20 commit-graph: verify contents match checksumDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  125. SZEDER GáborMay 30, 2018
  126. Jakub NarebskiJun 2, 2018
  127. Derrick StoleeJun 4, 2018
  128. 19/20 gc: automatically write commit-graph filesDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  129. Jakub NarebskiJun 2, 2018
  130. Derrick StoleeJun 4, 2018
  131. 20/20 commit-graph: update design documentDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  132. Jakub NarebskiJun 2, 2018
  133. 17/20 fsck: verify commit-graphDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  134. Jakub NarebskiJun 2, 2018
  135. Derrick StoleeJun 4, 2018
  136. 15/20 commit-graph: test for corrupted octopus edgeDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  137. Jakub NarebskiJun 2, 2018
  138. Derrick StoleeJun 4, 2018
  139. 18/20 commit-graph: add '--reachable' optionDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  140. Jakub NarebskiJun 2, 2018
  141. Derrick StoleeJun 4, 2018
  142. 13/20 commit-graph: verify generation numberDerrick Stolee, May 24, 2018
  143. Jakub NarebskiJun 2, 2018
  144. Derrick StoleeJun 4, 2018
  145. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 24, 2018
  146. Junio C HamanoMay 25, 2018
  147. Junio C HamanoMay 29, 2018
  148. Derrick StoleeMay 29, 2018
  149. Junio C HamanoMay 29, 2018

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