Re: [doc] User Manual Suggestion
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David Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>
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- Apr 25, 2009, 00:39 UTC
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On Apr 24, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Björn Steinbrink wrote:
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>> I think UI/API works way better than porcelain/plumbing. We are, >> after >> all, programmers. > > We are programmers, but not all git users are programmers.
I'm sure you will admit that the vast majority are programmers. This is about speaking effectively to your primary audience.
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>> It would also be good to link to a definition any time you use a term >> of art in the docs. I would even do that in the case of UI/API since >> the distinction could appear to be subtle. >> >> I should also say, most of the docs and interfaces I see in Git (and >> its wrappers, web interfaces, etc.) give the SHA1 hashes way too much >> exposure. The times when it's actually more convenient to use a hash >> instead of one of the other notations are rare, > > How often do you need a name for a commit shown by a command and can > accept that it is not stable?
I can accept it as long as it's stable inside my own repo. Maybe I need the SHA1 to talk about it wherever it may roam. I think you could count in the other direction (i.e. from the roots instead of the leaves) to get fairly stable symbolic names.
Also, I don't think I need to see the hashes for trees and blobs most of the time.
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> I usually need a name because I > want to reference that commit later on, either because I need to > talk to > other users, or because I'm working on something and might need to > look > at that commit now and then, regardless on my current state of things. > One big exception in my workflow is when I use "git blame", then I > usually just need the name once to look at the full commit. But then I > prefer a 7-8 characters long sha-1 prefix to something like > improve_foo_speed~132^12~1^3. And "pseudo-stable" numbers have been > discussed to death.
Okay, I "say uncle."
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>> and if hashes weren't so exposed I bet most interfaces would make >> those other names more available. One reason I think hashes retain >> their prominent exposure is that you have no other reasonably stable >> way of referring to commits, since branch~NN counts backward from >> HEAD. Adding such a thing would help. > > It counts backwards from "branch".
Right, thanks.
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>> Oh, one other specific issue: the rev-parse manpage uses $GIT_DIR >> without saying what it is. I *think* that means the root of the >> working copy and has nothing to do with environment variables, but >> it's hard to be sure, and if I'm right about that, it's misleading >> notation. > > $GIT_DIR means the .git directory of a non-bare repo.
Thanks for clarifying. But don't neglect to fix the docs so the next guy doesn't have to ask ;-)
BTW, "[non-]bare repo" is yet another Git-specific jargon. I know what it means... again, only because I asked someone.
-- David Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://boostpro.com