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Re: [PATCH 0/6] PATH WALK I: The path-walk API

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Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Nov 11, 2024, 21:55 UTC
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 11:56:01AM +0900, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> > Yes. This is the downside of the --full-name-hash compared to the
> > standard name hash. When repacking an entire repository, the effect
> > of these renames is typically not important in the long run as it's
> > basically a single break in the delta chain. The downside comes in
> > when doing a small fetch or push where the rename has more impact.
> 
> Yes.  Due to --depth limit, we need to break delta chains somewhere
> anyway, and a rename boundary is just as good place as any other in
> a sufficiently long chain.

We don't necessarily have to break the chains due to depth limits, because they are not always linear. They can end up as bushy trees, like:

  A <- B <- C
   \
    <- D <- E
     \
      <- F

We might get that way because it mirrors the shape of history (e.g., if D and E happened on a side branch from B and C). But we can also get there from a linear history by choosing a delta that balances size versus depth. In the above example, the smallest sequence might be:

  A <- B <- C <- D <- E <- F

but if we have a limit of 3 and A-B-C already exists, then we might reject the C-D delta and choose A-D instead (or I guess if it really is linear, probably B-D is more likely). That may be a larger delta by itself, but it is still better than storing a full copy of the object. And we find it by having those candidates close together in the sorted list, reject C-D based on depth, and then moving on to the next candidate.

I'm not sure in practice how often we find these kinds of deltas. If you look at, say, all the deltas for "Makefile" in git.git like this:

  git rev-list --objects --all --reflog --full-history -- Makefile |
  perl -lne 'print $1 if /(.*) Makefile/' |
  git cat-file --batch-check='%(objectsize:disk) %(objectname) %(deltabase)'

my repo has 33 full copies (you can see non-deltas by grepping for "0{40}$" in the output) out of 4473 total. So it's not like we never break chains. But we can use graphviz to visualize it by piping the above through:

  perl -alne '
    BEGIN { print "digraph {" }
    print "node_$F[1] [label=$F[0]]";
    print "node_$F[1] -> node_$F[2]" if $F[2] !~ /^0+$/;
    END { print "}" }
  '

and then piping it through "dot" to make an svg, or using an interactive viewer like "xdot" (the labels are the on-disk size of each object). I see a lot of wide parts of the graph in the output.

Of course this may all depend on packing patterns, too. I did my investigations after running "git repack -adf" to generate what should be a pretty reasonable pack. You might see something different from incremental repacking over time.

I'm not sure what any of this means for --path-walk, of course. ;) Ultimately we care about resulting size and time to compute, so if it can do better on those metrics then it doesn't matter what the graph looks like. But maybe those tools can help us understand where things might go better (or worse) with various approaches.

-Peff
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  1. 0/6 PATH WALK I: The path-walk APIDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Oct 31, 2024
  2. 1/6 path-walk: introduce an object walk by pathDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Oct 31, 2024
  3. karthik nayakNov 1, 2024
  4. Derrick StoleeNov 1, 2024
  5. 2/6 test-lib-functions: add test_cmp_sortedDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Oct 31, 2024
  6. 3/6 t6601: add helper for testing path-walk APIDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Oct 31, 2024
  7. karthik nayakNov 1, 2024
  8. Jonathan TanNov 1, 2024
  9. Derrick StoleeNov 4, 2024
  10. Jonathan TanNov 4, 2024
  11. Derrick StoleeNov 8, 2024
  12. Patrick SteinhardtNov 6, 2024
  13. Derrick StoleeNov 8, 2024
  14. 4/6 path-walk: allow consumer to specify object typesDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Oct 31, 2024
  15. 5/6 path-walk: visit tags and cached objectsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Oct 31, 2024
  16. karthik nayakNov 1, 2024
  17. Derrick StoleeNov 4, 2024
  18. 6/6 path-walk: mark trees and blobs as UNINTERESTINGDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Oct 31, 2024
  19. Derrick StoleeOct 31, 2024
  20. Taylor BlauNov 1, 2024
  21. Derrick StoleeNov 4, 2024
  22. Jeff KingNov 4, 2024
  23. Junio C HamanoNov 5, 2024
  24. Derrick StoleeNov 8, 2024
  25. Junio C HamanoNov 11, 2024
  26. Derrick StoleeNov 11, 2024
  27. Jeff KingNov 11, 2024
  28. Junio C HamanoNov 11, 2024
  29. Jeff KingNov 11, 2024
  30. 0/6 PATH WALK I: The path-walk APIDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 9, 2024
  31. 1/6 path-walk: introduce an object walk by pathDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 9, 2024
  32. 2/6 test-lib-functions: add test_cmp_sortedDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 9, 2024
  33. 3/6 t6601: add helper for testing path-walk APIDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 9, 2024
  34. Taylor BlauNov 21, 2024
  35. 4/6 path-walk: allow consumer to specify object typesDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 9, 2024
  36. Taylor BlauNov 21, 2024
  37. 5/6 path-walk: visit tags and cached objectsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 9, 2024
  38. 6/6 path-walk: mark trees and blobs as UNINTERESTINGDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Nov 9, 2024
  39. Taylor BlauNov 21, 2024
  40. Patrick SteinhardtNov 25, 2024
  41. Junio C HamanoNov 26, 2024
  42. Patrick SteinhardtNov 26, 2024
  43. Junio C HamanoNov 26, 2024
  44. 0/7 PATH WALK I: The path-walk APIDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 6, 2024
  45. 1/7 path-walk: introduce an object walk by pathDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 6, 2024
  46. Patrick SteinhardtDec 13, 2024
  47. Derrick StoleeDec 18, 2024
  48. Patrick SteinhardtDec 27, 2024
  49. 2/7 test-lib-functions: add test_cmp_sortedDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 6, 2024
  50. 3/7 t6601: add helper for testing path-walk APIDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 6, 2024
  51. 4/7 path-walk: allow consumer to specify object typesDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 6, 2024
  52. 5/7 path-walk: visit tags and cached objectsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 6, 2024
  53. Patrick SteinhardtDec 13, 2024
  54. Derrick StoleeDec 18, 2024
  55. 6/7 path-walk: mark trees and blobs as UNINTERESTINGDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 6, 2024
  56. 7/7 path-walk: reorder object visitsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 6, 2024
  57. Patrick SteinhardtDec 13, 2024
  58. 0/7 PATH WALK I: The path-walk APIDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2024
  59. 1/7 path-walk: introduce an object walk by pathDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2024
  60. Patrick SteinhardtDec 27, 2024
  61. 2/7 test-lib-functions: add test_cmp_sortedDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2024
  62. 3/7 t6601: add helper for testing path-walk APIDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2024
  63. 4/7 path-walk: allow consumer to specify object typesDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2024
  64. 5/7 path-walk: visit tags and cached objectsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2024
  65. 6/7 path-walk: mark trees and blobs as UNINTERESTINGDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2024
  66. 7/7 path-walk: reorder object visitsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 20, 2024
  67. karthik nayakNov 1, 2024

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