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Re: [RFC PATCH v4 14/26] Add stateless RPC options to upload-pack, receive-pack

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Shawn O. Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>
Date
Oct 29, 2009, 15:26 UTC
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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
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> "Shawn O. Pearce" <spearce@spearce.org> writes:
> 
> > When --stateless-rpc is passed [...]
> > When --advertise-refs is passed [...]
> 
> Is the idea to first run with --advertise-refs to get the set of refs, and
> then doing another, separate run with --stateless-rpc, assuming that the
> refs the other end advertised does not change in the meantime, to conclude
> the business?
Yes.
 
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> I suspect that two separate invocations on a (supposedly) single
> repository made back-to-back can produce an inconsistent response in
> verious situations (e.g. somebody pushing in the middle, or the same
> hostname served by more than one mirrors) and the other end can get
> confused.
Yes, that can happen.
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> I do not think there is any way to avoid it, short of adding to the second
> request some "cookie" that allows the second requestee to verify that the
> request is based on what he would give to the requester if this request
> were the first step of the request made to him, iow, his state did not
> change in the middle since the first request was made (either to him or to
> the equivalent mirror sitting next to himm).
There isn't a lot we can do, you are right.

One approach is to use an HMAC and sign each advertised SHA-1 during the initial --advertise-refs phase. Requesters then present the SHA-1 and the HAMC signature in each "want" line, and the --stateless-rpc phase validates the signatures to ensure they came from a trusted party.

The major problem with this approach is the private key management. All mirrors of that repository need to have a common private key so they can generate and later verify that HMAC signature. This is additional complexity, for perhaps not much gain.

A different approach is to have the --stateless-rpc phase validate the want lines against its refs (like we do now), but if the validate fails (no ref exactly matches) support walking backwards through the last few records in the reflog, or through that ref's own history for a few hundred commits, to see if the want SHA-1 appears in the recent prior past.

Obviously when walking the reflog we would need to use a time bound, e.g. "only examine last record if more recent than 5 minutes ago". This way a force push to erase something will still erase it, but a client who had just recently observed the prior SHA-1 can still complete their fetch request, just as with native git:// they could do that due to the prior SHA-1 being held in the git-upload-pack's private memory.

Also, obviously when walking the commit history of a ref (to see if the want'd SHA-1 is merged into one or more reachable refs) we don't want to walk backwards too far, as it costs CPU time on the server side, but we also don't want to walk too few commits. E.g. pushes for me tend to be in the 20 commit range, while Linus probably pushes a thousand commits or more in a single merge. Finding the right balance may be tricky.

> I wouldn't worry too much about this if the only negative effect could be
> that the requestor's second request may result in an error, but I am
> wondering if this can be used to attack the requestee.

I don't think it can be used to attack the server. The only impact I can see is the client gets confused and gets an error response from the server when the server aborts due to the invalid "want" line sent during that 2nd (or any subsequent) request.

-- 
Shawn.
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Message 35 of 60 in “Return of smart HTTP”
  1. 00/26 Return of smart HTTPShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  2. 01/26 http-push: fix check condition on http.c::finish_http_pack_request()Shawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  3. 02/26 pkt-line: Add strbuf based functionsShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  4. 03/26 pkt-line: Make packet_read_line easier to debugShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  5. Junio C HamanoOct 29, 2009
  6. Shawn O. PearceOct 29, 2009
  7. Junio C HamanoOct 29, 2009
  8. Shawn O. PearceOct 29, 2009
  9. Jeff KingOct 30, 2009
  10. Shawn O. PearceOct 30, 2009
  11. Jeff KingOct 30, 2009
  12. David BrownOct 30, 2009
  13. Junio C HamanoOct 30, 2009
  14. 04/26 fetch-pack: Use a strbuf to compose the want listShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  15. 05/26 Move "get_ack()" back to fetch-packShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  16. Junio C HamanoOct 29, 2009
  17. Shawn O. PearceOct 29, 2009
  18. 06/26 Add multi_ack_detailed capability to fetch-pack/upload-packShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  19. Junio C HamanoOct 29, 2009
  20. Shawn O. PearceOct 29, 2009
  21. 07/26 remote-curl: Refactor walker initializationShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  22. 08/26 fetch: Allow transport -v -v -v to set verbosity to 3Shawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  23. 09/26 remote-helpers: Fetch more than one ref in a batchShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  24. 10/26 remote-helpers: Support custom transport optionsShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  25. 11/26 Move WebDAV HTTP push under remote-curlShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  26. Tay Ray ChuanOct 30, 2009
  27. Shawn O. PearceOct 31, 2009
  28. Tay Ray ChuanOct 30, 2009
  29. Clemens BuchacherOct 30, 2009
  30. Tay Ray ChuanOct 30, 2009
  31. 12/26 remote-helpers: return successfully if everything up-to-dateShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  32. 13/26 Git-aware CGI to provide dumb HTTP transportShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  33. 14/26 Add stateless RPC options to upload-pack, receive-packShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  34. Junio C HamanoOct 29, 2009
  35. Shawn O. PearceOct 29, 2009
  36. Junio C HamanoOct 29, 2009
  37. Shawn O. PearceOct 30, 2009
  38. 15/26 Smart fetch and push over HTTP: server sideShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  39. 16/26 http-backend: add GIT_PROJECT_ROOT environment varShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  40. 17/26 http-backend: reword some documentationShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  41. 18/26 http-backend: use mod_alias instead of mod_rewriteShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  42. 19/26 http-backend: add example for gitweb on same URLShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  43. 20/26 http-backend: more explict LocationMatchShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  44. 21/26 Discover refs via smart HTTP server when availableShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  45. 22/26 Smart push over HTTP: client sideShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  46. 23/26 Smart fetch over HTTP: client sideShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  47. 24/26 Smart HTTP fetch: gzip requestsShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  48. 25/26 t5540-http-push: remove redundant fetchesShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  49. 26/26 test smart http fetch and pushShawn O. Pearce, Oct 29, 2009
  50. Clemens BuchacherOct 29, 2009
  51. Shawn O. PearceOct 29, 2009
  52. Junio C HamanoOct 29, 2009
  53. Shawn O. PearceOct 29, 2009
  54. Shawn O. PearceOct 29, 2009
  55. Junio C HamanoOct 30, 2009
  56. Shawn O. PearceOct 30, 2009
  57. Tay Ray ChuanOct 30, 2009
  58. Shawn O. PearceOct 31, 2009
  59. Jakub NarebskiOct 29, 2009
  60. Shawn O. PearceOct 29, 2009

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