translation difficulties :: revision and commit

I am doing git translation to Lithuanian, and cannot find the difference between "revision" and "commit", as I need to create a word for "commit". It is confusing.

The problem is we don't have a noun for commit. Verb would be „įkelti“, which is suitable, but noun out of the verb („įkėlimas“) is linguistically unsuitable and messes up meaning in some cases. Therefore local community is suggesting word „revizija“ (revision) for noun. It would make perfect sence in SVN context.

Are there any objections? Can verb "commit" be called "revision" in git in noun context? What are the differences? From Documentation/revisions.txt:

    A revision parameter '<rev>' typically, but not necessarily, names a
    commit object. It uses what is called an 'extended SHA1' syntax.

Is it that revision is a name for commit object, stash object, cherry-pick object? No? Please clarify.

Thank you.

Motiejus

Motiejus Jak?tys:

For Swedish, I used a translation of "check-in" (as when checking in at an airport) for "commit", both in the verb and noun forms.

On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 13:29 +0100, Peter Krefting wrote:

If you seek to avoid SVN-isms I suggest thinking about the deconstruction of "commit" in the context we are using it: "to commit the current state of the working directory as known by Git to the recorded history." That we are using it as a noun in the Git documentation is pure jargon, separate from the original verb (which happens to be transitive in English, making natural noun-ification less likely). So far as the language element is concerned, it could have been chosen to be a "flubberbudget" and provided nobody attempted suggesting to Linus that he'd be insane for calling it that it would have had a decent chance of staying that way. ;-)

Drew Northup:

I don't know much about Subversionisms, never really having used Subversion (but I have used CVS extensively, so I am a bit damaged), so I cannot comment on that.

The problem, at least for Swedish, is that if I want to translate that sentence, finding a good word to replace "commit" is very difficult, even when it is used properly like this. Some things just don't translate very well into other languages.

Speaking of Linus, his native tounge is the same as mine, so I will let him have the power to override my Swedish translation of Git & co, if he sees fit :-)

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 11:02 +0200, Peter Krefting wrote:

I feel your pain. Somewhere around here I (think I) still have the full CVS dump of Plex86 that I never properly found a new home for (11 years ago). As it won't compile on anything newer than 2.4.x and Kevin Lawton folded most of it back into Bochs I highly doubt there's a lot of people looking for it.

Well, that is a problem then! I had thought the problem was fashioning a replacement for our jargon noun-form. Now that I think of it, English has got to be hard to start from in general with its 45k word "canonical" (approximate current use) set--and that's when we don't compound or conjugate them in odd new ways or otherwise exercise implements of linguistic destruction upon them.