Re: translation difficulties :: revision and commit

From: Drew Northup <drew.northup@maine.edu>
Date: Apr 28, 2011, 12:14 UTC
Message-ID: <1303992875.1148.23.camel@drew-northup.unet.maine.edu>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1104281058560.7540@perkele.intern.softwolves.pp.se>

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 11:02 +0200, Peter Krefting wrote:

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> Drew Northup:
> 
> >> For Swedish, I used a translation of "check-in" (as when checking in at an
> >> airport) for "commit", both in the verb and noun forms.
> 
> > If you seek to avoid SVN-isms I suggest thinking about the
> > deconstruction of "commit" in the context we are using it:
> 
> I don't know much about Subversionisms, never really having used Subversion 
> (but I have used CVS extensively, so I am a bit damaged), so I cannot 
> comment on that.

I feel your pain. Somewhere around here I (think I) still have the full CVS dump of Plex86 that I never properly found a new home for (11 years ago). As it won't compile on anything newer than 2.4.x and Kevin Lawton folded most of it back into Bochs I highly doubt there's a lot of people looking for it.

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> > "to commit the current state of the working directory as known by Git to 
> > the recorded history."
> 
> The problem, at least for Swedish, is that if I want to translate that 
> sentence, finding a good word to replace "commit" is very difficult, even 
> when it is used properly like this. Some things just don't translate very 
> well into other languages.

Well, that is a problem then! I had thought the problem was fashioning a replacement for our jargon noun-form. Now that I think of it, English has got to be hard to start from in general with its 45k word "canonical" (approximate current use) set--and that's when we don't compound or conjugate them in odd new ways or otherwise exercise implements of linguistic destruction upon them.

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> > So far as the language element is concerned, it could have been chosen to 
> > be a "flubberbudget" and provided nobody attempted suggesting to Linus 
> > that he'd be insane for calling it that it would have had a decent chance 
> > of staying that way. ;-)
> 
> Speaking of Linus, his native tounge is the same as mine, so I will let him 
> have the power to override my Swedish translation of Git & co, if he sees 
> fit :-)

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-Drew Northup
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