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Re: [PATCH RFC v4 7/9] BreakingChanges: announce Rust becoming mandatory

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Sep 22, 2025, 16:24 UTC
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Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
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>> I am having a hard time imagining the practicality of this "hand
>> over but we still review" arrangement.  Some of the security fixes
>> are embargoed, and the reason why we are jetissoning the stale
>> codebase is presumably because nobody is willing to work on it other
>> than the "community support" folks.  I can imagine that we would
>> qualify them into the git-security cabal and let them use the forum
>> to coordinate among themselves, but then to what degree in the
>> "community support themselves" process is our involvement expected?
>> As long as we can make sure that they do not leak before the
>> official embargoed release, they do not need an official stamp of
>> approval from the project or by the Git maintainer---that is what it
>> means to "hand over maintainer ship", at least to me.
>> 
>> In other words, I like what I see in this paragraph, but I do not
>> think we can practically live with the part of the sentence after
>> the last ", but".
>
> I think the most important part here is that this community-supported
> LTS release should still live in the canonical repositories. We should
> avoid the situation where we hand over maintainership to such a degree
> that the end result (the tagged LTS release) lives somewhere else.

Why is it a bad thing? The official repository can have a README.md with a single entry "maintenance releases for Git 2.98 LTS (most notably with no Rust requirements) are found at this separate site".

> Otherwise we risk chaos and a plethora of different LTS releases, which
> would be harmful both for us and those that rely on the LTS releases.
No risk for that as long as we have a single "go there" pointer, right?
> And yes, that probably means that a trusted LTS maintainer should be on
> git-security@ so that they are aware of upcoming security releases.
Absolutely.

And there should be a community of those who are working on helping the backporting effort around that LTS maintainer that ensures there is no "chaos and a plethora of different LTS releases".

We might occasionally update what is listed in "git ls-remote --tags" from our repository by syncing with them only for convenience, but the important point is that the community supported LTS should have its own official site, which is different from the cutting/bleeding edge. Most importantly, a coordinated disclosure would say that the update to versions of

 - Git 3.0 to Git 3.4 are found $HERE, 
 - Git for Windows 3.0, 3.2, and 3.4 are found $THERE
 - Git 2.98 are found $COMMUNITY_LTS
to make sure that people know where to find their updates.

So, no, I do not think we should unnecessarily mix community LTS and the main project.

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  3. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2025
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  11. 2/3 rust: implement a test balloon via the "varint" subsystemPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 4, 2025
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  24. 3/3 BreakingChanges: announce Rust becoming mandatoryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 4, 2025
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  26. Patrick SteinhardtSep 5, 2025
  27. 0/7 Introduce Rust and announce that it will become mandatortyPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 5, 2025
  28. 1/7 meson: add infrastructure to build internal Rust libraryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 5, 2025
  29. Justin ToblerSep 5, 2025
  30. Patrick SteinhardtSep 8, 2025
  31. Elijah NewrenSep 7, 2025
  32. Patrick SteinhardtSep 8, 2025
  33. 2/7 Makefile: introduce infrastructure to build internal Rust libraryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 5, 2025
  34. brian m. carlsonSep 5, 2025
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  36. Elijah NewrenSep 7, 2025
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  38. SZEDER GáborSep 7, 2025
  39. Patrick SteinhardtSep 8, 2025
  40. 3/7 help: report on whether or not Rust is enabledPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 5, 2025
  41. brian m. carlsonSep 5, 2025
  42. Elijah NewrenSep 7, 2025
  43. 4/7 rust: implement a test balloon via the "varint" subsystemPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 5, 2025
  44. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2025
  45. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2025
  46. brian m. carlsonSep 5, 2025
  47. 5/7 BreakingChanges: announce Rust becoming mandatoryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 5, 2025
  48. Matthias AßhauerSep 5, 2025
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  50. Eli SchwartzSep 5, 2025
  51. Patrick SteinhardtSep 8, 2025
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  54. Phillip WoodSep 5, 2025
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  56. brian m. carlsonSep 5, 2025
  57. Elijah NewrenSep 7, 2025
  58. 6/7 ci: convert "pedantic" job into full build with breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 5, 2025
  59. Junio C HamanoSep 7, 2025
  60. Patrick SteinhardtSep 8, 2025
  61. 7/7 ci: enable Rust for breaking-changes jobsPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 5, 2025
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  78. 0/8 Introduce Rust and announce that it will become mandatortyPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 8, 2025
  79. 1/8 meson: add infrastructure to build internal Rust libraryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 8, 2025
  80. brian m. carlsonSep 8, 2025
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  83. 2/8 Makefile: reorder sources after includesPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 8, 2025
  84. 3/8 Makefile: introduce infrastructure to build internal Rust libraryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 8, 2025
  85. 4/8 help: report on whether or not Rust is enabledPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 8, 2025
  86. 5/8 rust: implement a test balloon via the "varint" subsystemPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 8, 2025
  87. Ezekiel NewrenSep 8, 2025
  88. brian m. carlsonSep 8, 2025
  89. Patrick SteinhardtSep 10, 2025
  90. 6/8 BreakingChanges: announce Rust becoming mandatoryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 8, 2025
  91. 7/8 ci: convert "pedantic" job into full build with breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 8, 2025
  92. 8/8 ci: enable Rust for breaking-changes jobsPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 8, 2025
  93. Kristoffer HaugsbakkSep 8, 2025
  94. 0/9 Introduce Rust and announce that it will become mandatoryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 10, 2025
  95. 1/9 meson: add infrastructure to build internal Rust libraryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 10, 2025
  96. brian m. carlsonSep 11, 2025
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  99. Patrick SteinhardtJan 21, 2026
  100. 2/9 Makefile: reorder sources after includesPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 10, 2025
  101. 3/9 Makefile: introduce infrastructure to build internal Rust libraryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 10, 2025
  102. 4/9 help: report on whether or not Rust is enabledPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 10, 2025
  103. 5/9 varint: use explicit width for integersPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 10, 2025
  104. Junio C HamanoSep 10, 2025
  105. 6/9 varint: reimplement as test balloon for RustPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 10, 2025
  106. 7/9 BreakingChanges: announce Rust becoming mandatoryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 10, 2025
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  118. 8/9 ci: convert "pedantic" job into full build with breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 10, 2025
  119. 9/9 ci: enable Rust for breaking-changes jobsPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 10, 2025
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  125. 0/9 Introduce Rust and announce that it will become mandatoryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 15, 2025
  126. 1/9 meson: add infrastructure to build internal Rust libraryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 15, 2025
  127. 2/9 Makefile: reorder sources after includesPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 15, 2025
  128. 3/9 Makefile: introduce infrastructure to build internal Rust libraryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 15, 2025
  129. 4/9 help: report on whether or not Rust is enabledPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 15, 2025
  130. 5/9 varint: use explicit width for integersPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 15, 2025
  131. 6/9 varint: reimplement as test balloon for RustPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 15, 2025
  132. 7/9 BreakingChanges: announce Rust becoming mandatoryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 15, 2025
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  147. 8/9 ci: convert "pedantic" job into full build with breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 15, 2025
  148. 9/9 ci: enable Rust for breaking-changes jobsPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 15, 2025
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  164. 0/9 Introduce Rust and announce that it will become mandatoryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 23, 2025
  165. 1/9 meson: add infrastructure to build internal Rust libraryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 23, 2025
  166. 2/9 Makefile: reorder sources after includesPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 23, 2025
  167. 3/9 Makefile: introduce infrastructure to build internal Rust libraryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 23, 2025
  168. 4/9 help: report on whether or not Rust is enabledPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 23, 2025
  169. 5/9 varint: use explicit width for integersPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 23, 2025
  170. 6/9 varint: reimplement as test balloon for RustPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 23, 2025
  171. 7/9 BreakingChanges: announce Rust becoming mandatoryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 23, 2025
  172. Phillip WoodSep 23, 2025
  173. Junio C HamanoSep 23, 2025
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  175. 8/9 ci: convert "pedantic" job into full build with breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 23, 2025
  176. 9/9 ci: enable Rust for breaking-changes jobsPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 23, 2025
  177. Ezekiel NewrenSep 23, 2025
  178. Patrick SteinhardtSep 24, 2025
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  180. 0/9 Introduce Rust and announce that it will become mandatoryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 25, 2025
  181. 1/9 meson: add infrastructure to build internal Rust libraryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 25, 2025
  182. 2/9 Makefile: reorder sources after includesPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 25, 2025
  183. Ramsay JonesSep 25, 2025
  184. 3/9 Makefile: introduce infrastructure to build internal Rust libraryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 25, 2025
  185. 4/9 help: report on whether or not Rust is enabledPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 25, 2025
  186. 5/9 varint: use explicit width for integersPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 25, 2025
  187. Kristoffer HaugsbakkSep 30, 2025
  188. Ezekiel NewrenOct 1, 2025
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  190. 6/9 varint: reimplement as test balloon for RustPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 25, 2025
  191. Ezekiel NewrenOct 1, 2025
  192. Junio C HamanoOct 1, 2025
  193. 7/9 BreakingChanges: announce Rust becoming mandatoryPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 25, 2025
  194. 8/9 ci: convert "pedantic" job into full build with breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 25, 2025
  195. 9/9 ci: enable Rust for breaking-changes jobsPatrick Steinhardt, Sep 25, 2025
  196. Junio C HamanoSep 25, 2025
  197. Ezekiel NewrenOct 1, 2025
  198. 0/9 Introduce Rust and announce that it will become mandatoryPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2025
  199. 1/9 meson: add infrastructure to build internal Rust libraryPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2025
  200. 2/9 Makefile: reorder sources after includesPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2025
  201. 3/9 Makefile: introduce infrastructure to build internal Rust libraryPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2025
  202. 4/9 help: report on whether or not Rust is enabledPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2025
  203. 5/9 varint: use explicit width for integersPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2025
  204. 6/9 varint: reimplement as test balloon for RustPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2025
  205. 7/9 BreakingChanges: announce Rust becoming mandatoryPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2025
  206. 8/9 ci: convert "pedantic" job into full build with breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2025
  207. 9/9 ci: enable Rust for breaking-changes jobsPatrick Steinhardt, Oct 2, 2025
  208. Junio C HamanoOct 2, 2025
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