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Re: [PATCH 2/2] diff-merges: introduce '-d' option

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
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Sep 26, 2023, 02:50 UTC
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Sergey Organov <sorganov@gmail.com> writes:
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> P.S. I also figure that maybe our divergence comes from the fact that I
> consider merge commits to be primarily commits (introducing particular
> set of changes, and then having reference to the source of the changes),
> whereas you consider them primarily merges (joining two histories, and
> then maybe some artificial changes that make merges "evil"). That's why
> we often end up agreeing to disagree, as both these points of view seem
> pretty valid.

It rarely is the case that two opposing world views are equally valid, though.

If there were an option that forbids any comparison output from a single parent commit (say --ndfnm "no-diff-for-non-merge"), then those with "merges are the primary thing, single-parent commits on the merged branches are implementation details" worldview would be commonly using "--diff-merges=first-parent --patch --ndfnm" and (1) viewing only the combined effect of merging side branches without seeing noise from individual commits whose effects are already shown in these merges, and (2) traversing the side branches as well, so that merges from side-side branches into the side branches are viewable the same way as merges into the mainline.

But because no such option exists and nobody asked for such an option during the whole lifetime of the project, I highly doubt that it is a valid world view with wide backing from the users.

Even if it were a valid world view with wide backing, the combination "--diff-merges=first-parent --patch" would be less than ideal presentation for them (due to lack of "--ndfnm"). And as I already said, it would not be useful without --first-parent traversal for the worldview git has supported.

That is why I find it of dubious value to let short-and-sweet '-d' be squatted by less than ideal "--diff-merges=first-parent --patch" combination. Shorthands are scarse resources, and we want to be careful before handing them out.

Thanks.
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  1. 0/2 diff-merges: introduce '-d' optionSergey Organov, Sep 9, 2023
  2. 2/2 diff-merges: introduce '-d' optionSergey Organov, Sep 9, 2023
  3. Junio C HamanoSep 11, 2023
  4. Sergey OrganovSep 12, 2023
  5. Junio C HamanoSep 14, 2023
  6. Sergey OrganovSep 14, 2023
  7. Junio C HamanoSep 15, 2023
  8. Sergey OrganovSep 16, 2023
  9. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2023
  10. Sergey OrganovSep 26, 2023
  11. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2023
  12. Sergey OrganovSep 26, 2023
  13. 1/2 diff-merges: improve --diff-merges documentationSergey Organov, Sep 9, 2023
  14. Junio C HamanoSep 11, 2023
  15. Sergey OrganovSep 12, 2023
  16. Junio C HamanoSep 13, 2023
  17. Sergey OrganovSep 18, 2023
  18. Junio C HamanoSep 19, 2023
  19. Sergey OrganovSep 19, 2023
  20. 0/2 diff-merges: introduce '-d' optionSergey Organov, Sep 20, 2023
  21. 2/2 diff-merges: introduce '-d' optionSergey Organov, Sep 20, 2023
  22. 1/2 diff-merges: improve --diff-merges documentationSergey Organov, Sep 20, 2023
  23. 0/3 diff-merges: introduce '--dd' optionSergey Organov, Oct 4, 2023
  24. 2/3 diff-merges: introduce '--dd' optionSergey Organov, Oct 4, 2023
  25. Junio C HamanoOct 5, 2023
  26. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  27. 1/3 diff-merges: improve --diff-merges documentationSergey Organov, Oct 4, 2023
  28. Eric SunshineOct 4, 2023
  29. Sergey OrganovOct 4, 2023
  30. Junio C HamanoOct 5, 2023
  31. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  32. Junio C HamanoOct 5, 2023
  33. Elijah NewrenOct 6, 2023
  34. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  35. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  36. Junio C HamanoOct 6, 2023
  37. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  38. Junio C HamanoOct 6, 2023
  39. Elijah NewrenOct 7, 2023
  40. Junio C HamanoOct 7, 2023
  41. Junio C HamanoOct 7, 2023
  42. Elijah NewrenOct 9, 2023
  43. Junio C HamanoOct 10, 2023
  44. [silly] worldview documents?Junio C Hamano, Oct 10, 2023
  45. Emily ShafferOct 10, 2023
  46. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  47. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  48. 3/3 completion: complete '--dd'Sergey Organov, Oct 4, 2023
  49. Junio C HamanoOct 5, 2023
  50. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  51. 0/3 diff-merges: introduce '--dd' optionSergey Organov, Oct 9, 2023
  52. 2/3 diff-merges: introduce '--dd' optionSergey Organov, Oct 9, 2023
  53. 1/3 diff-merges: improve --diff-merges documentationSergey Organov, Oct 9, 2023
  54. 3/3 completion: complete '--dd'Sergey Organov, Oct 9, 2023
  55. Junio C HamanoOct 9, 2023

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